Trump Calls for Complete Shutdown of Muslims Entering U.S.

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Well that's unforgivable.

     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    One more reason to hate them! Amirightoramiright?
     
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    Sometimes I think reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, or maybe you just enjoy twisting every discussion into the argument you want to have. You asked what country had the largest population of Muslims and whether it is peaceful. I answered Indonesia and mostly peaceful except for one prince devoted to the extremist view of Islam. You have somehow twisted that into a "yeah, but Christians are bad too" thing. I'd be happy to discuss that with you sometime, but right now I'm sitting on a beach in Maui and it's time to go snorkeling.
     
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  4. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    You need to put "a small portion of the population" into context with the rest of the world. People are mostly peaceful no matter their religion (or no religion). Some portion are violent, no matter their religion (or no religion).

    Is Indonesia more or less violent than the USA? We're the ones contemplating keeping Muslims (many are Indonesian) out for fear of violence. So it does matter.
     
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    A. No, overall I don't see anything that says Indonesians areore violent than Americans.

    B. Insofar as I can tell, it's only Trump and his minions calling for a ban on Muslims entering the country. Trump is an imbecile and what he proposes is unconstitutional so it rwally doesn't matter.
     
  6. MarAzul

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    Denny much of what you post is true. But trying to find some moral equivalence between what Christians and the Islamic Jihads do, is a worthless exorcizer in attempting to be fair minded or above it all. The teachings of Mohammed in the Quran and the teachings of Jesus in the Bible are not and never were intended to be morally equivalent.

    I say this as a student of religion, not a Christian or the follower of any other religion. I find the teachings of Buddha, Jesus, and Krishna all to be a positive aid to men in leading their lives.
    Mohammed on the other hand does not seem positive to me because of the intolerance he teaches toward others, myself, an Infidel especially.

    I think of myself, probably as a Pantheist which is probably stronger on the believing in a Creator than an agnostic, but not a personal deity that watches over me, you or anyone else.
    So while I can accept the teachings of Jesus as good, it does not make me a Christian, I can not meet the test and say I believe Jesus is God. Nor Buddha, nor Kishna, and certainly not Mohammad.

    So I would not defend any Christian for doing violent acts like, bombing abortion clinics and I did not think Jesus would either. His teachings, guide people to in the opposite direction,
    "Vengeance is mine sayest the lord; Judge not...". All Good advice the bomber failed to read.

    Obama says ISIS is not Islam! Well, they say they are Islam. They have declared Jihad on the people of America. All statements are facts. Probably the only one that is questionable
    is Obama's assertion that they are not Islam! Only a Muslim can determine what is Islam or not. But the US President should not even try, he is violating the first amendment.
    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...". While Congress is prohibited from weighing in on a Religion directly, the US President, would certainly be infringing on the free exercise thereof by weighing in. His saying what is the True Islam can only come from the Muslims and Obama assures us he is not a Muslim.

    When a person is trying to sort out where the source of a problem is, one should not ignore clues.
    Clues:

    Christians do not have the concept of Jihad in the teaching of Jesus.
    Muslim have the concept of Jihad authorized in the teachings of Mohammad
    Jesus, Buddha, and Krishna did not teach anything equivalent to Jihad or the intolerance represented in the concept of Infidels.
    All Muslims are authorized under the Religion of Isam and encouraged to join in Jihad and become a defender of Islam.

    I see Trump as a man that is paying attention to the clues. Calling of the suspension of immigration of Muslims into this country is prudent. Probably until the Muslims sort out, what is the true Islam?
    Under current immigration law, the President can suspend any group right now. Congress has already authorized this action and they are authorized under the Constitution to control immigration,
    period. Nothing says they must be fair or blind to religion in controlling immigration. A prudent President would have already issued the order, we have enough Muslims now and we have no idea who will or will not follow the call to Jihad.

    Did this fellow?

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    An American Muslim, cut off the head of a woman in Oklahoma. Very Jihad style, Take the Infidel in the right hand, cut though the veins of the neck, only the Infidel will care!
    Did Jihad just provide and excuse? I don't think it matters, I doubt he will be the last.
     
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    Trump may win!!! There are those who don't know any better. There is a theory that he will drop out so as to enhance Clintons vote block . However, I think his ego is too far in the stratosphere to drop out. Every redneck wants him. I heard he has a strong college student base too.
     
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    He's active on twitter. I guess he has just gone full Trump fanboy and has things to attend to. No time for us anymore. I guess people grow apart.
     
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    70,000 clerics issue fatwa!

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    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...h-Muslims-support-it/articleshow/50100656.cms
     
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  12. MarAzul

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    I don't suppose even one of them said, Love to MarAzul!
     
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    On the last day of Urs-e-Razvi of Dargah Aala Hazrat, nearly 70,000 clerics came together and passed a fatwa against terrorist organizations, including IS, Taliban, al-Qaida and MarAzul of Bandon, Oregon.

    Nope, no love for you.
     
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    WoW, that's pretty awesome!
     
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    I suspect he now sees us as infidels and is preparing Jihad.

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    Then call it a proof of concept.
     
  19. MarAzul

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    But now what? I think it is fair to say, none of these were leaders of the Jihad.
     
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    Sure, if everyone is armed and on high alert constantly for terrorist attacks, then I guess that's proof of concept.

    How many accidental shootings will that cause? Definitely vastly more than the number that would be caused by terrorists (since the number of accidental shootings is already greater than the number of terrorist caused deaths, even without arming everyone).

    How much time/energy will everyone waste being on constant alert? How much does the GDP go down if workers are worried about who to shoot rather than what to work on next?

    It might be proof of concept. I don't like the concept.

    barfo
     

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