Notice Trump Directed Cohen To Lie To Congress

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  1. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Anymore in our Country its getting like the Shias and Sunnis where they mostly despise each other because of difference's but yet both are followers of Mohammed and worshipers of Allah.
    Or like the Protestants versus Catholics.
    If there is no common believe that bridges two opposing whatever, with respect and tolerance of each other ways, then there is no way to be United in Freedoms.
    If you stand back and see whats happening all of us have a responsibility for generations to come to get a handle on things, otherwise our kids and grandkids are growing up with hate constantly in their ears, and site, which is not very conducive to continue with a United States but rather a tribal non tolerant society.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Fox News Lolololol.

    Oh wait. Wrong copout.

    Ya know what I find hilarious?

    There isn't an insult aimed at the lefties that they won't turn around and try to use on right wingers.

    Snowflake
    Safe space
    Triggered
    NPC

    The leftists are the Pee Wee Herman of political insults.

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  3. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You are right, of course. How about this:

     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Yes, right wing hypocrisy is hilarious.

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Indeed, wait and see is the smart approach, one which I often espouse but don't always follow myself.

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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Just gross.
     
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    Wait and see says the guy who ended his first post on this thread with "Game over"

    lol
     
  10. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Like I said, I don't always follow my own advice. But at least I can admit a mistake when I make one (note, this is not a comment on you, Cippy).

    barfo
     
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    Cippy91 Habitual Line Stepper

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    GAME OVER!!
     
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    Oopsy daisy.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    We don't yet know. The error could be minor or it could be some sort of strategy by the Mueller team.
    I think we should wait until we assert that some sort of game is over. Of course, all this assumes that anyone is allowed to see Mueller's report.
     
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    Inside the Mueller team’s decision to dispute BuzzFeed’s explosive story on Trump and Cohen

    When a BuzzFeed reporter first sought comment on the news outlet’s explosive report that President Trump had directed his lawyer to lie to Congress, the spokesman for special counsel Robert S. Mueller III treated the request as he would almost any other story.

    The reporter informed Mueller’s spokesman, Peter Carr, that he and a colleague had “a story coming stating that Michael Cohen was directed by President Trump himself to lie to Congress about his negotiations related to the Trump Moscow project,” according to copies of their emails provided by a BuzzFeed spokesman. Importantly, the reporter made no reference to the special counsel’s office specifically or evidence that Mueller’s investigators had uncovered.

    “We’ll decline to comment,” Carr responded, a familiar refrain for those in the media who cover Mueller’s work.

    The innocuous exchange belied the chaos it would produce. When BuzzFeed published the story hours later, it far exceeded Carr’s initial impression, people familiar with the matter said, in that the reporting alleged that Cohen, Trump’s former lawyer and self-described fixer, “told the special counsel that after the election, the president personally instructed him to lie,” and that Mueller’s office learned of the directive “through interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents.”

    In the view of the special counsel’s office, that was wrong, two people familiar with the matter said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. And with Democrats raising the specter of investigation and impeachment, Mueller’s team started discussing a step they had never before taken: publicly disputing reporting on evidence in their ongoing investigation.

    Within 24 hours of the story’s publication, the special counsel’s office issued a statement doing just that. Trump, who has called the media the “enemy of the people,” on Saturday pointed to the special counsel’s assertion as evidence of what he sees as journalists’ bias against him.

    “I think that the BuzzFeed piece was a disgrace to our country. It was a disgrace to journalism, and I think also that the coverage by the mainstream media was disgraceful, and I think it’s going to take a long time for the mainstream media to recover its credibility,” Trump said Saturday. “It’s lost tremendous credibility. And believe me, that hurts me when I see that.”

    BuzzFeed has stood by its reporting.

    “As we’ve reconfirmed our reporting, we’ve seen no indication that any specific aspect of our story is inaccurate. We remain confident in what we’ve reported, and will share more as we are able,” Matt Mittenthal, a spokesman for the news outlet, said Saturday.

    People familiar with the matter said Carr told others in the government that he would have more vigorously discouraged the reporters from proceeding with the story had he known it would allege Cohen had told the special counsel Trump directed him to lie — or that the special counsel was said to have learned this through interviews with Trump Organization witnesses, as well as internal company emails and text messages.

    Carr declined to comment for this story beyond the special counsel’s office statement issued Friday.

    After Carr declined to comment to BuzzFeed, but before the story was published, he sent reporter Jason Leopold a partial transcript of Cohen’s plea hearing, in which Cohen admitted lying to Congress about the timing of discussions related to a possible Trump Tower project in Moscow, according to the emails BuzzFeed’s spokesman provided. Cohen had claimed falsely that the company’s effort to build the tower ended in January 2016, when in fact discussions continued through June of that year, as Trump was clinching the Republican nomination for president.

    “I made these misstatements to be consistent with Individual 1’s political messaging and out of loyalty to Individual 1,” Cohen said at his plea hearing late last year, using the term “Individual 1” to refer to Trump.

    Carr, people familiar with the matter said, hoped Leopold would notice that Cohen had not said during the hearing that Trump had explicitly directed him to lie. But Leopold, who co-authored the story with reporter Anthony Cormier, told the spokesman he was not taking any signals, and Carr acknowledged the point.

    “I am not reading into what you sent and have interpreted it as an FYI,” Leopold wrote.

    “Correct, just an FYI,” Carr responded.

    A person inside the Trump Organization said a BuzzFeed reporter also talked with a lawyer for the organization hours before the story posted and was warned that the story was flawed and should be scrutinized further. Mittenthal said, “We trust our sources over the organization still run by Donald Trump’s family. That organization is directly implicated in the allegations related to the Trump Tower Moscow project, and refused to speak on the record for our story.”

    The language Cohen and his representatives used in court had been ambiguous. Cohen had pleaded guilty in two cases — one for lying to Congress about the Moscow project, and another involving campaign finance violations for hush-money payments to women who had alleged affairs with Trump.

    While neither Cohen nor his representatives had ever said explicitly that Trump directed Cohen to lie toCongress, Guy Petrillo, Cohen’s attorney, wrote in a memo in advance of his sentencing, “We address the campaign finance and false statements allegations together because both arose from Michael’s fierce loyalty to Client-1. In each case, the conduct was intended to benefit Client-1, in accordance with Client-1’s directives.”

    Client-1 refers to Trump. Petrillo declined to comment Saturday. It is unclear precisely what “directives” Petrillo was referring to, though he did not allege elsewhere in the memo that Trump explicitly instructed Cohen to lie to Congress. He wrote that Cohen was “in close and regular contact with White House-based staff and legal counsel to Client-1” as he prepared his testimony and “specifically knew . . . that Client-1 and his public spokespersons were seeking to portray contact with Russian representatives in any form by Client-1, the Campaign or the Trump Organization as having effectively terminated before the Iowa caucuses of February 1, 2016.”

    People familiar with the matter said after BuzzFeed published its story — which was attributed to “two federal law enforcement officials involved in an investigation of the matter” — the special counsel’s office reviewed evidence to determine if there were any documents or witness interviews like those described, reaching out to those they thought might have a stake in the case.

    They found none, these people said. That, the people said, is in part why it took Mueller’s office nearly a day to dispute the story publicly. In the interim, cable news outlets and other media organizations, including The Washington Post, dissected its possible implications — even as their reporters were unable to independently confirm it.

    Told of the special counsel’s failure to find support for the story, Mittenthal, the BuzzFeed spokesman, said, “Our high-level law enforcement sources, who have helped corroborate months of accurate reporting on the Trump Tower Moscow deal and its aftermath, have told us otherwise. We look forward to further clarification from the Special Counsel in the near future.”

    Two people familiar with the matter said lawyers at the special counsel’s office discussed the statement internally, rather than conferring with Justice Department leaders, for much of the day. In the advanced stages of those talks, the deputy attorney general’s office called to inquire if the special counsel planned any kind of response, and was informed a statement was being prepared, the people said.

    Around 7:30 p.m. Friday, Carr distributed it to numerous media outlets via email.

    “BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the Special Counsel’s Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony are not accurate,” he wrote.

    People familiar with the matter said the special counsel’s office meant the statement to be a denial of the central theses of the BuzzFeed story — particularly those that referenced what Cohen had told the special counsel, and what evidence the special counsel had gathered.

    BuzzFeed, though, asserted that the language was not specific about what was being contested.

    “We stand by our reporting and the sources who informed it, and we urge the Special Counsel to make clear what he’s disputing,” BuzzFeed editor Ben Smith said in response to the special counsel's statement.

    Cohen has not addressed BuzzFeed’s reporting, and BuzzFeed has made clear he was not a source for its story. Lanny J. Davis, a legal and communications adviser to Cohen, said before the special counsel statement was issued, “Out of respect for Mr. Mueller’s and the Office of Special Counsel’s investigation, Mr. Cohen declined to respond to the questions asked by the reporters and so do I.” He declined to address it after the special counsel’s office released the statement.

    Cohen declined to comment Saturday.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4c33ffb5379a
     
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    People familiar with the matter said after BuzzFeed published its story — which was attributed to “two federal law enforcement officials involved in an investigation of the matter” — thespecial counsel’s office reviewed evidence to determine if there were any documents or witness interviews like thosedescribed, reaching out to those theythought might have a stake in the case.


    Really? Hey guys, did we miss something???? No, but guess what I looked again and found the pee tape.
     
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    things someone should never do if they have no experience. Play a trombone, play a trumpet or pretend to be a president.We are in this mess because we have an amature that doesn't know what he is doing in the oval office.
     
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    Further explanation? How obtuse can one be?

    IT'S A FUCKING LIE, FOR THE INTELLECTUALLY-LAZY LEFT TO CLING TO IN THEIR MAKE-BELIEVE BUBBLE OF SAFE SPACE.
     
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