Trump Dominating polls, even with RINO plants sabotage him

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  1. magnifier661

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    That isn't accurate! One poll gave Hillary a +10 without voters and MOE. You can knock that off. Then you see the last 3 are over a month ago! Lmao!!!

    I'll give you the average of the last 3, which was at least done this month and qualified voters. That puts trump Tied.
     
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    How can a poll where the front running Republican loses to Hillary and a bottom tier Republican beats Hillary be valid?

    That has to be poll of Democrats + Independents - Republicans.
     
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    They are all voters.
     
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    I don't understand.
     
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    Example:
    One poll may interview 1500 people, 500 democrats, 500 republicans and 500 independent voters. All where asked the same question
     
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    http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/15398 NBCWSJ September Poll (2).pdf

    1000 adults
    MOE +/- 3.10%

    You can't throw out polls you don't like :)

    The previous polls along with the current ones do not show any trend in Trump's favor.
     
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    Again, these polls are obviously weighted because the democrats have only 2 candidates, whom will vote democrat. Then you have haters like you that will make sure to not vote for Trump regardless, which gives votes to Hillary or votes away from Trump.

    This poll is meaningless until the primaries are won. End of story...

    Just in, Rassmuson report has trump 31% Carson 16%. I'll give you all the back end polls you want to support your hater agenda. I'll just look at the ones that apply to the primary election
     
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    There are only 2 candidates for the poll respondents to consider. Trump or the Wicked Witch of the West. And she wins. Outside the MOE even.

    You think Carson supporters are voting for Hillary in these polls? No way.
     
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    Again... This is a poll that is pulling the cart before the horse. Those polls have very little reflection on winning the primaries.

    And... I will say this again. You can hold your hopes on these minor poll questions and I will hold mine on what really matters. Who they support and expect to win the primaries.
     
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    AP-GfK Poll: Republicans View Donald Trump as Most Electable
    Republican voters view Donald Trump as their strongest general election candidate, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll that highlights the sharp contrast between the party's voters and its top professionals regarding the billionaire businessman's ultimate political strength.

    Seven in 10 Republican and Republican-leaning registered voters say Trump could win in November 2016 if he is nominated, and that's the most who say so of any candidate. By comparison, 6 in 10 say the same for retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, who, like Trump, has tapped into the powerful wave of antiestablishment anger defining the early phases of the 2016 contest.

    "It's the lifelong establishment politicians on both sides that rub me the wrong way," said registered Republican Joe Selig, a 60-year-old carpenter from Vallejo, California. "I think Trump is more electable. He's strong. We need strength these days."

    Trump and Carson are considered among the least electable general election candidates by the Republican Party's professionals, those who are in the business of helping candidates run campaigns and win elections.

    Experienced political strategists note that winning a general election and winning the Republican nomination are often very different tasks. The GOP's most conservative voters — a group that is older and whiter than the nation as a whole — wield extraordinary influence in picking the nominee. Independents, moderate voters and minorities are far more important in general elections that draw many more people to the polls.

    While Trump and Carson are popular in primary election polls, both have used divisive rhetoric in recent months that alienated some minorities. Trump called Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals during his announcement speech; while Carson said he would not support a Muslim presidential candidate.

    "Republicans think (Democrat) Hillary (Rodham Clinton) is weaker than she is. They are wrong," said GOP operative Katie Packer, who was deputy campaign manager for 2012 Republican nominee Mitt Romney. "They think we don't need to win more women or more Hispanics to win. They're wrong."

    Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who has embraced a welcoming tone with Hispanics, tops the field of experienced political leaders on the question of electability, running about even with Carson and slightly behind Trump.

    Six in 10 Republicans say Bush could win the general election and 54 percent say the same about Florida Sen. Marco Rubio. There's a drop-off among the rest of the GOP's 2016 crowded class. None of the other candidates is viewed as electable in a general election by more than half of Republican voters.

    Carson and Trump are the candidates most likely to receive positive ratings from Republican voters, with 65 percent saying they have a favorable opinion of Carson and 58 percent saying the same of Trump. Republicans are somewhat less excited about Bush, with 48 percent giving him a favorable rating.

    "If he weren't a Bush, I wouldn't even know his name," said Republican Leslie Millican, a 34-year-old housewife from Magnolia, Arkansas. "I like the other Bushes. Something about (Jeb Bush) — he ain't grown on me yet."

    Trump and Bush have the highest negative ratings within their own party: 37 percent of Republican voters say they have an unfavorable opinion of Bush and 36 percent say the same of Trump.

    Their negatives are even more pronounced among the broader electorate. The AP-GfK poll found Trump is viewed unfavorably by 57 percent of those surveyed, the highest negatives of any Republican candidate. Bush is next with unfavorable ratings from 48 percent of all respondents.

    Overall, all but one GOP candidate is viewed more unfavorably than favorably by all those questioned. Carson is the exception, drawing about equally positive and negative views. He remains unknown by a significant portion of the electorate.

    Among Republican voters, all the candidates except New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie have a net positive rating. Carson tops the list, followed by Rubio, former technology executive Carly Fiorina and then Trump.

    The poll also found a sharp difference between the political parties over experience.

    By an overwhelming 77 percent to 22 percent margin, Republican registered voters and leaners say they prefer an outsider candidate who will change how things are done, rather than someone with experience in Washington who can get things done. They prefer someone with private sector leadership experience over experience holding elected office, 76 percent to 22 percent.

    Trump, Carson and Fiorina are the only Republican candidates who have never held elective office. Clinton, the Democratic front-runner, is a former first lady, secretary of state and senator.

    Perhaps that helps explain why Democrats prefer experience over outsider status, 67 percent to 32 percent, and experience in office over private sector experience 66 percent to 33 percent.

    Republican strategist John Feehery says Trump is considered electable now only because he hasn't yet been the subject of a multimillion dollar negative ad campaign, which will happen should he maintain his lead in the polls.

    "Right now, he serves a valuable purpose as a front-runner, especially for the Democrats," Feehery said. "They would love him to be our nominee."

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    The AP-GfK Poll of 1,027 adults was conducted online October 15 to October 19, using a sample drawn from GfK's probability-based KnowledgePanel, which is designed to be representative of the U.S. population. The margin of sampling error for all respondents is plus or minus 3.3 percentage points.

    Respondents were first selected randomly using telephone or mail survey methods, and later interviewed online. People selected for KnowledgePanel who didn't otherwise have access to the Internet were provided access at no cost to them.

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    Online:

    Poll: http://ap-gfkpoll.com
     
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    It looks like Democrats polling to show some Republicans to have a better chance. Perhaps candidates they would prefer to run.
     
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    Americans trust Donald Trump the most as a ‘job creator’ says new Harris Poll
    The nation trusts Republican frontrunner Donald Trump as the White House hopeful who could successfully remedy the current employment situation. We’re talking all Americans here, not just Republicans.

    “When asked in open-ended questioning which presidential candidate they think would best improve the U.S. job market, Donald Trump is the top response (26 percent), followed by Hillary Clinton (20 percent) and more distantly by Bernie Sanders (12 percent),” reports Larry Shannon-Missal, managing editor of the Harris Poll.

    The rest of the field barely registered; Ben Carson garnered 3 percent, followed by Jeb Bush with 2 percent and Sens. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio plus Carly Fiorina, who each drew a lonely 1 percent. Other candidates failed to get any approval, though 10 percent of the 2,225 respondents said none of the candidates could foster better employment opportunities.

    And here are the complete findings for Mr. Trump: 47 percent of Republicans cite his ability to create jobs, along with 13 percent of Democrats, and 26 percent of independents.
     
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    In October, 2007, Rudy Guiliani led the polls for Republicans. In October, 2011, Herman Cain was in the lead.

    It might be too early to assume the polls predict the nominee.

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    This is true. I think February, after the first states results come in is when we will really see the winner.
     
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    Trump's latest detailed policy released today...

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