Politics Trump fires Comey

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  1. The Professional Fan

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    No thanks.
     
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    Please show me on any blank tax for where you think there'd be useful information to support any collusion.

    This one has the detailed list of his holdings and properties, income sources and amounts, required by election law, he signed it, and likely under penalty of purjery:

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2838696-Trump-2016-Financial-Disclosure.html
     
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    Actually, I fear we are giving the Russian much more success than they deserve.
     
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    There's nothing to blackmail if Comey tells the truth. I'm not seeing that Trump has anything to blackmail him with.

    Blackmail would be "I have evidence on tape you committed a crime, so you better tow the line or I'll release it."
     
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    You buying up old americans? I'm not quite out to pasture yet but of your entire post....I salvaged the part about how poorly the govt is being run....you're welcome!!!!
     
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    depends on where her pimp banked the money
     
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    It's a start. Again, if he has nothing to hide, why not release them? Can you answer that?

    "If Trump's returns were ever released -- how much the public would learn depends on what parts of his returns come out.For instance, the top two pages alone won't reveal his foreign ties.Even his full return -- including schedules and attached forms -- may not definitively resolve concerns about hisforeign business relationships.But they could point to other information -- such as who else invests in his partnerships -- that could help answer questions."

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/14/news/economy/trump-tax-returns/
     
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    Either because he is guilty as shit and has many ties with Russia which is probably correct

    Or he isn't nearly as rich as he makes himself out to be and in fact has tons of debt which he will now pay off with presidential favors is also probably true

    Or both which is almost certainly true

    Or...wait...Hillary Clinton...its all Hillary...fake news...if you ask anybody...fake news...very fake...so fake
     
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    Even his full return -- including schedules and attached forms -- may not definitively resolve concerns about his foreign business relationships

    Exactly right.

    If there were something illegal going on, it wouldn't be reported on any tax return.

    He's under no obligation to release his tax returns. I wish he would to shut everyone up who have some desperate need to see them.

    My suspicion is that the left and media accomplices would go through them with a fine tooth comb and negatively spin anything they can find.
     
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    Here's something to consider. Are we really sure it was the Russians who did the hack?

    Thanks to WikiLeaks.

    Why should we trust the CIA/NSA et al? They spy on us and lie about it. They've overthrown foreign governments. They spied on our allies. They have used viruses against at least Iran (nuclear program) and N. Korea.

    They have the ability to leave behind "fingerprints" of any foreign government they choose, to shift the blame on that government.

    Why not believe this conspiracy theory? My take is that the evidence is inconclusive, but maybe the government has some actual proof that they won't share.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...-capable-cyber-false-flag-attack-blame-russia

    According to a Wikileaks press release, the 8,761 newly published files came from the CIA’s Center for Cyber Intelligence (CCI) in Langley, Virginia. The release says that the UMBRAGE group, a subdivision of the center’s Remote Development Branch (RDB), has been collecting and maintaining a substantial library of attack techniques ‘stolen’ from malware produced in other states, including the Russian Federation.”

    As Wikileaks notes, the UMBRAGE group and its related projects allow the CIA to misdirect the attribution of cyber attacks by “leaving behind the ‘fingerprints’ of the very groups that the attack techniques were stolen from.”

    While a major motivating factor in the CIA’s use of UMBRAGE is to cover it tracks, events over the past few months suggest that UMBRAGE may have been used for other, more nefarious purposes. After the outcome of the 2016 U.S. presidential election shocked many within the U.S. political establishment and corporate-owned media, the CIA emerged claiming that Russia mounted a “covert intelligence operation” to help Donald Trump edge out his rival Hillary Clinton.

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    Incidentally, the U.S. intelligence community’s assertions that Russia used cyber-attacks to interfere with the election overshadowed reports that the U.S. government had actually been responsible for several hacking attempts that targeted state election systems. For instance, the state of Georgia reported numerous hacking attempts on its election agencies’ networks, nearly all of which were traced back to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

    Now that the CIA has been shown to not only have the capability but also the express intention of replacing the “fingerprint” of cyber-attacks it conducts with those of another state actor, the CIA’s alleged evidence that Russia hacked the U.S. election – or anything else for that matter – is immediately suspect. There is no longer any way to determine if the CIA’s proof of Russian hacks on U.S. infrastructure is legitimate, as it could very well be a “false flag” attack.​
     
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    I predict Trump will be impeached before his four years are up and he will return to the boardroom of The Apprentice as Mr. President and his new catchphrase when he dismisses people at the end of the show will be, "Your Comeyed."
     
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    I predict he'll be in a Ukranian embassy tweeting away while thousands of law suits pile up on his doorstep...Melania will marry Tom Cruise and become a Scientologist
     
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    Do you mean Impeach by the House? $100
    or convicted by the Senate? $200
     
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    Not going to make bets. But, one or the other will probably happen. If not now, then in 2018 when the dems take back the house and the senate
     
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    I'll take "The rapists" for $200 alex
     
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    Who is Bill Clinton?


    Correct!
     
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    This is kind of big news.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/b...bout-trump-the-fbi-and-russia/article/2622899

    "Mr. Comey did brief Ranking Member Feinstein and me on who the targets of the various investigations are," Grassley continued:

    "It would not be appropriate for me to reveal those details before the professionals conducting the investigations are ready. So I will not answer any questions about who are targets of the ongoing Russia investigations. But I will say this: Shortly after Director Comey briefed us, I tweeted that he should be transparent. I said he should tell the public what he told Senator Feinstein and me about whether the FBI is or is not investigating the president. On Tuesday, the president's letter said that Director Comey told him he was not under investigation. Senator Feinstein and I heard nothing that contradicted the president's statement."

    Trump, of course, said in his letter firing Comey that Comey had told Trump, on three separate occasions, that Trump was "not under investigation."

    Finishing his statement, Grassley called on the FBI to "confirm to the public whether it is or is not investigating the president. Because it has failed to make this clear, speculation has run rampant." In what appeared a clear nod toward Blumenthal, Grassley called on the FBI to brief all members of the Judiciary Committee "on what is actually going on."

    "Hopefully, that will help temper some of the unsubstantiated statements that have been made," Grassley said.

    Feinstein had a prepared statement of her own to make concerning the Comey firing, much of it criticizing the White House's changing rationales for taking action, plus calling for the appointment of a special counsel to investigate. But before she began her prepared remarks, Feinstein said a few words addressing what Grassley had just said about Trump and targets of the investigation.

    "Thanks very much, Mr. Chairman," Feinstein said. "I very much appreciate what you've said, and it's very accurate, and we were briefed. And the nature of the briefing was a counter-intelligence and criminal investigation that the FBI was carrying out, and more than that I will not say, either."
     

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