Politics Trump Owns Stock in Company that produces Hydroxycloroquine

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I don't remember the source, but a few days ago I read that right now there are at least 70 clinical trials of different drugs for treating covid being conducted, but all we hear about in the one trump's been pushing

maybe it will end up being the best treatment; maybe other drugs will be better

I think we should all hope that there will be a few treatment alterbatives soon because it's looking like any widely available vaccine is still many months away

 

This is a great link of current trials and treatments for Covid-19.
https://www.epocrates.com/e/guideline/03_19

 

Unless you live in Great Britain:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehil...ent-confident-a-covid-19-vaccine-could-be?amp

 

Because there is no solid evidence it works and because of serious side effects.

 

And yet it’s been widely prescribed these doses for other illnesses.

 

All the current research around the globe is pointing towards at least eighteen months before a vaccine will be safe and available for everyone in need. Those who believe that malaria pills are the ticket are welcome to be the human lab rats...I wish them luck! It's not that they don't work for hepatitis C or malaria but those aren't the covid19 virus...if they work, great...I'll be curious to see the trial and error results of what some think is wild guess work masked as medical knowledge.

 

reading that article it's pretty vague what she means by "ready". Maybe a vaccine will be approved by Britain's government by September. Maybe that will be when the final phase of clinical trials can begin. Even then, there's going to be a gap between approval and when the vaccine can be widely available.

I mean, think maybe 5 billion doses of the vaccine having to be widely produced, then distributed, then administered. That's not going to happen quickly.

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as for hydroxycloroquine, I saw a report on tv tonight: it's interesting that the first study, the French study, has been withdrawn by the entity that first reported the results. That the opposite of an endorsement, and in fact looks like they question the results. And the other study in Brazil had a total of 81 patients, and 10 of the 81 died from heart failure...a noted side effect of the drug

thanks for the link. That appears to be US trials of treatments that have been sanctioned by the CDC. Several European nations are also conducting trials and I have to assume there are also trials in Asia

I sure hope at least a couple are successful. It would be comforting to know there are effective treatment options if a vaccine is a year away, or more

 

Yes, and you can check the other treatments as well. Seems there are a lot of options down the pipeline.

 

I read another article on it that said that they were trying to get funding to go into production even before the final test results were completed. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.

 

I know that I am linking to a rag of a "news" provider, but it is still an interesting perspective to consider.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/12/those...roquine-should-remember-aids-medication-wars/

 

Exactly. For other illnesses with precise dosage under careful monitoring. Not handed out like Halloween candy.

From what I have learned side effects are most likely to impact older people with cardio or respiratory conditions, exactly the ones most at risk from COVID-19.

Yeah, someone in extremis, they'll try anything. Hydroxychloroquine, eye of newt, dwarf cock (GoT fans will recognize that reference). But for some reason Trump had a bug up his sizeable ass about this drug. I know he claims to be a natural scientist but he is not, there is no such thing, and no reason to favor this drug just because Trump (and his fans on Fox) say so.

Like Dr. Fauci said, evidence, not feelings.

 

The administration said very clearly that this requires the patient to physician treatment. There is no way a person can take this medication without a prescription by their doctor. So your statement is moot.

Secondly, people are dying. There isn’t a single drug or vaccine approved for treatment, therapy or curing this virus except for “off label” prescriptions. Are we supposed to just let them die because we don’t have 18 months of blind studies to validate medications? Do you really think this country can survive an 18 month mitigation until treatments are approved?

No, you use the resources you have to stop the hemorrhaging now. Use a better treatment when it comes available. The resistance because “Orange Man Bad” is inexcusable imo. That’s ignorance.

 

I've noticed that the US in proportion has a lower "total recovered" ration than most countries...I'd like to see that number go up...and MAYBE, just maybe Hydroxychloroquine would help doing that. My only concern would be if whether or not it would do more harm to those who are already "in critical condition".
Then again, some of those people are destine to die anyway...tough call.

 

Yeah I agree. Definitely shouldn’t be giving this drug to someone being tested positive. Should be saved for patients on a downward trajectory. Like a pathway to having to be put on a ventilator.

 

Certainly use a possible treatment when indicated. But it is not a miracle cure or a game changer, yet Trump TV and the Republican party now all have to promote this one drug because Trump said so. He's not a fucking doctor and not a virologist so leave science to those who actually know it.

 

100% agreed. And yes, Trump is really promoting this product. And there have been antidotal events where this event saved someone’s life and thanked Trump for bringing up a medicine they had no idea about.

Whatever the case, saving one life is amazing. Hopefully it can save more. And yes, hopefully this treatment doesn’t cause serious health complications. I will say I’m more confident that a drug vetted since the 50s will give physicians enough data on safe dosages and treatments

 

http://dlvr.it/RTmLmg

 

Here is a randomized study (not yet peer reviewed) done by China with just Hydroxychloroquine. Not the combo with z-pac or zinc, which was used on other successful testing.

the study was 3 days of 200mg dosing, then 800mg for the remaining days. I believe it was a 3 week trial.

The results were no significant improvement from normal therapeutic treatments. Mild side effects were diarrhea.

interesting nonetheless

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.10.20060558v1

 

Yep...