Politics Trump: Treasonous Traitor and....Impeachment?

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  1. CupWizier

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    May I suggest for you to see an eye doctor. You seem to have a lot of issues with your eyes.
     
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    I guess this is for cupofpoop?

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    ...thank you for reinforcing my point.
     
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    Well, for one, our POTUS can grow set of balls and let Putin know that we know what's going on instead of fellating him on the world stage. And in case you forgot, they met behind closed doors and supposedly talked for hours. That was the perfect time for Trump to bust Putin's ass on the matter and let him know that if it continues there will be consequences.

    Secondly, sanction the hell out Russia. Their economy is already in poor shape so it would very likely have the desired effect. It would also help to actually make NATO stronger instead of weaker.

    Thirdly, this has nothing to do with Dems or Reps, it's about doing the right thing...and we/Trump have known about for nearly 2 years about what Russia has been doing to us and other countries around the world so there's been more than enough time to formulate "a plan" as you put it. Trump had/has a lot of smart people around him to advise him but he chooses to go rogue.
     
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    ...just for the sake of levity on this subject;


     
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    oh, but you did. Just can't admit it. :biglaugh:
     
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    ...lol...yeah, I saw that this morning...funny stuff.
     
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    Better looking than either one. Superstar one world leader!!
     
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    Actually it does. Review the actions of Conservative Presidents vs Liberal Presidents and you see a huge difference.
    It simply is in the mind set of how to do confrontation and the view of the right thing.

    Just as you and I disagree.
     
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    a president can only accomplish what Congress is willing to work with him to accomplish....Congress has worked against the American people by spending more time making a president look bad for the next election than making the country look good for everyone......now is a strange time...the GOP holds all the purse strings yet still can't get things done for the American people....most liberal presidents..if you call them that...do not have the support of Congress....it's dysfunctional.….Trump just can't get along with anybody period. Success by a president will only occur when the opposition party decides to do what's right and not focus on the failure of the administration. A failed president is a successful campaign for the opposition. Political divorce court
     
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    For the most part, I have to agree with you. Excepting that while the GOP does have a slim lead in both houses, they are not and never have been as polarized as the Dems. Without help on both sides of the isle, the President can not advance an agenda.

    If one takes an honest look at this administration in historical context, he is no better or worse than what we have had in the past. Most of us realize the Obama spent eight years pitting segments of the population against each other for political gain. This practice is not unusual and has historically been common place. Where he was able to take it to another level is with the advent of social media.

    I look at some of the most well thought of presidents, from FDR, Kennedy, Teddy all the way back to Lincoln, Jefferson and Adams..all of these guys would be torn to ribbons in today's environment. Then, just for fun, take a close look at the less popular Presidents..Washington has been a cesspool of corruption for almost two hundred years.
     
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    ...what?...of the previous POTUS's (conservative and liberal), which of them was as maniacal and insulting and bombastic and as clueless as Trump?

    ...what's your "view of the right thing". Yes or no, do you honestly think Trump handled himself properly with the best interests of the U.S. during the summit?


    ...a simple yes or no will do.
     
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    Nato Stronger? I often wonder why we need Nato? The Soviet Union is no more. Why are we on the hook to defend Albania? If Libya attacks Albania, are you willing to send your young ones to do the honorable battle?
    Why do the Dems think Russia is the same as the Soviet Union? Do you real think we need to defend Albania from Russia?

    It seems like Nato should be considered a relic of the Twentieth Century. It did a job but no longer needed.


    Ha! I suppose you have your reasons to be in a rush to judge. I do not. I do not mind waiting to see how events play out.
     
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    Russia has invaded Crimea and amassed troops on both the Polish border and north of the Turkish pipeline....nothing to do with the Soviet Union...they've also aggressively expanded their naval presence all throughout the area and have a strong military base and naval base in Syria....Russia has been very militarily hawkish....on the other side of the world China has done the same in the Pacific.
     
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    Perhaps you are somewhat correct. What has that to do with Nato?


    I don't see the Crimea as you paint the picture.
    Russians live there. In the last century when a Ukrainian dictator of the Soviet Union gave the Crimea to the Ukraine, it did not much matter, they were still Russian living in the Soviet Union. But now it is a different deal after the Ukraine broke away from the USSR. Now there are Russian living under the rule of Ukrainians and not very compatibly. Apparently they had a vote to return to Russia. I don't think it is in our interest to interfere in this political realignment that has centuries of history involved.
     
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    I believe I did offer you my opinion. Hang in there mate, don't get yourself over worked before you need to weigh in.
     
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    I really must question the sanity of people that use the term "Treason" or "Traitor". These word have a very specific meaning defined in the Constitution, in time of war.
    "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them"
    We have no warfare declared with Russia! No one should pretend we do. Worse yet, no one should want that state of affairs to exist.

    In my view the use of the term can only be characterized as Sedition.
     

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