Bogus! Trump's latest presser

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  1. lawai'a

    lawai'a Well-Known Member

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    sure someone grandstanding, piggybacking on current events, you will likely see others but it is extremely doubtful they gain any traction. extreme views like the ones on the right will be out there, but do you consider this on par with the racist rally in charlottesville?
     
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    Trump has yet to call the Mayor of Charlottesville. Pence got city wrong.
     
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    We'll see. Realize the US flag flew over 75 years of slavery.

    Is this a hoot, or what? (From 2015)

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/246012-va-gov-leave-confederate-statues-alone

    Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) is defending Confederate statues in Virginia as part of its heritage, one day after moving to ban "hurtful" Confederate flags on state license plates.

    “I am sticking just with the license plates because I do think that is a message that is so hurtful, that flag, to folks,” McAuliffe told MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports" on Wednesday.

    “But not statues. I mean, Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis, these are all parts of our heritage," he added. "And the people that were in that battle, the Civil War, many of them were in it obviously for their own reasons that they had for that. But leave the statues and those things alone.”
     
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    The page loads really slow is all.
     
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    yup perceptions change when exposed to others points of view if one listens. or for political expediency lol
     
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    Most of what I know about Bannon is what the media writes about him. A single quote without context about the alt right.

    The people I see defending him are Jewish in a couple of cases. Staunch defenders. They know him, I don't. The media doesn't because he doesn't speak in public much.

    Until yesterday.

    http://prospect.org/article/steve-bannon-unrepentant

    I asked Bannon about the connection between his program of economic nationalism and the ugly white nationalism epitomized by the racist violence in Charlottesville and Trump’s reluctance to condemn it. Bannon, after all, was the architect of the strategy of using Breitbart to heat up white nationalism and then rely on the radical right as Trump’s base.

    He dismissed the far right as irrelevant and sidestepped his own role in cultivating it: “Ethno-nationalism—it's losers. It's a fringe element. I think the media plays it up too much, and we gotta help crush it, you know, uh, help crush it more.”

    “These guys are a collection of clowns,” he added.

    “The Democrats,” he said, “the longer they talk about identity politics, I got ’em. I want them to talk about racism every day. If the left is focused on race and identity, and we go with economic nationalism, we can crush the Democrats.”

    (Economic nationalism, he talked about in the piece, means he thinks were in an economic war with China that's effectively killed a lot of our manufacturing base, they've been stealing our intellectual property, and the amount of money we send to that nation is a massive figure, approaching $1T).
     
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    Or maybe he was right and he's bowing to pressure from a vocal minority.

    I didn't find any polling about what the masses think about removing statues. Just this, which is unscientific:

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    OK, found another.

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    It would help to know what website that poll was on.
     
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    curious, are those Richmond exclusive poles?
     
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    San Diego Union Tribune

    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ose-removing-confederate-2016apr19-story.html

    NEW ORLEANS (AP) — A majority of people in Louisiana oppose taking down Confederate monuments, a Louisiana State University poll has found.

    The survey released Monday examined feelings statewide about New Orleans' plan to remove prominent Confederate statues, including a towering figure of Gen. Robert E. Lee.

    Seventy-three percent of respondents said they opposed removing the Confederate memorials. The poll found 88 percent of whites opposed removal, while 47 percent of blacks also opposed removal.
     
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    states rights and local governance
     
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    No. I specifically said unscientific. The one mentioned by the San Diego Union-Tribune is scientific.
     
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    'elections have consequences'
     
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    I have only deleted personal insults from your posts the few times you have said them.

    I quoted something you posted. Is that what you're talking about? Because that's not the same as deleting a link in a post.
     
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    If 90% of the people who replied that they should be removed were black, would that matter to you?

    If you were black, do you think you would feel the same way?
     

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