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  1. NYR31

    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Again, the canucks have have scored the lowest goals per game in 5 non-lock out yrs and have lowest % of games won in that same time span. So he took a team that excelled in the reg season and made it mediocre. WHAT A COACH.

    Why don't you just ask him out already?
     
  2. Disturbed

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    Al, way too early to evaluate EITHER coach but I wouldnt be pimping Torts numbers.....They are MUCH worse than before he got there in every meaningful area. Not even close
     
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    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Correct me if i'm wrong, but VAN is still in the same conference they were when AV was coaching them, right? So AV leaves, Torts comes in, and they are scoring and winning games at the lowest rates in half a decade. WHAT A COACH.
     
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    last few years Vancovers PP%

    2013-201414.1%
    2012-2013 15.8%
    2011-2012 19.8%
    2010-2011 24.4%
     
  5. NYR31

    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    a % in isolation means little. Where does it rank vs. peers.
     
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    where is the fucking huge improvement with the Rangers? Hmm? The coach held this team back didn't they...well....Where are we...a 500 team...yippie fucking kay eye...this coach was supposed to change all of that...it was all Torts..if they only let the players play...well...WHAT IF THE FUCKING PLAYERS DONT HAVE THE ABILITY?
     
  7. Disturbed

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    Currently 26th

    Prior years

    22nd
    4th
    1st
    6th
     
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    are you serious? % means nothing...WHAT?
    Ok..ill play along
    2010-2011 1st overall
    2011-2012 4th overall
    2012-2013 22nd overall...just barely ahead of the rangers....notice something here???
    this year...yeah 26th...but again its all on the coach right? he should be compared to 2010-2011 seasons shouldn't he right....


    Now..what about the PK...

    Vancover 2013-2014 is #1 in the NHL 89. but they don't score on the PK
    Vancover 2012-2013...ranked 8th in the NHL at 84%
    Vancover 2011-2012 ranked 6th at 86%
    Vancover 2010-2011 ranked 3rd at 85.6
     
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    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Exactly.
     
  10. BigDaddyAl1973

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    side note...Vancover scoring 2.63 goals a game this season.....Rangers 2.21 dam coach holding back our offensive studs I tell you
     
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    exactly...dude...they were 22nd last year...22!who was the coach last year? oh the same guy who was the coach the year they were #1 overall....
     
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    And top 6 the previous 3 years but that is meaningless ;-)
     
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    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Those don't count Dis. Please do not include them in the conversation. Only those that fit Al's "point" are relevant.

    Thanks.
     
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    This thread is beyond saving at this point. All I can say is that under Tortorella Marian freakin Gaborik was going on during intermission and saying that he and the team have to focus on defense and the goals will come. You could see in his face he didn't believe it yet he had to go out there (on the left wing, remember that?) and play some screwed up style that Torts was clinging to harder and harder and wasn't right for the team.

    Torts style fit the 2011-12 team with Prust, Feds, Dubi, Anisimov. It didn't fit last year's team with Nash, Hagelin etc. and he refused to adapt. Instead he held tighter and lost the locker room. That's why he isn't here.
     
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    Hey Al is one of my favorites here but there is simply nothing he can say that will make me think that Vancouver is better with Torts. You can say the same thing with AV though.

    In both cases, its too early to tell.
     
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    and that's without counting that last year was a short year where some players skated during the lock out, some didn't, some were ready to play, some weren't. And Kesler also missed more than half the year.

    Nash missing 60% of the team's games this year also has had no effect on the team's record. None. It's all AV.
     
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    Seriously dude just stop. You dont know anything about the Rangers. Earlier you compared Rask and his stanley cup to Hank even though Rask never even played in the playoffs that year.

    Al happens to love Torts and feels he got shafted. Most of us dont agree but I respect Al's opinions
     
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    didn't Gabby score 40 for that same coach?
     
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    agreed but yet as a fan base we constantly look back at the Tort years as OMG what a douche that coach held us back.
     
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    Al is drunk on love that's clouding his judgement.

    That year we went to the ECF's the team's record was 10-10 in the playoffs, and if we even made it as far as we did it's because Henrik was a stud in the playoffs, which is why your previous posts are so clueless. Follow Disturbed's advice and just stop.
     

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