Politics Turning GA, NC, NV, and/or PA into victory (Biden vs Trump, 2020 election!)

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    In honor of the 2020 presidential race.

    This one's for Biden/Harris vs. Trump/Pence.

     
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    You picked one person and resolved that she represents the majority of the Left most part of the party. Why leave out Bernie and Warren? Won't they be attending the convention, virtually, of course?
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    I actually love this. Next time someone here says, "I am Republican, and actually voted for Kasich in the primary" as an excuse for their continued Trump support, I am going to laugh my ass off.
     
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    what is telling is that you seem to think AOC is the spokesperson for the entire progressive wing of the party. How much time do other progressives have? Bernie, Elizabeth Warren...Kamala Harris for that matter

    the D's are trying to appeal to the middle, to independents, and to disaffected R's. Giving time to Kasich is smart
     
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    And in their appeal to the middle, independents and republicans, they have dragged themselves too far to the right for most progressives tastes. Both parties disdain "the squad", and it shows. (Democrats and republicans hate the left.)

    I don't claim to be a progressive. I will support the candidate/party that actually gives a crap about people. Neither the democrats nor the republicans do. And it shows.
     
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    Hmmm? Now who might come in here and say something like that? :devilwink:
     
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    Kasich who as governor vastly restricted women's rights, voting rights, unions. He's Trump's agenda with better manners.
     
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    He's an example of whats funny about the GOP. It really doesn't take much for people to look at one of them and go "hey, he's actually a decent person", despite track record proving otherwise.

    Instead, they trolled out a clown who has pretty much alienated 60% (at min) of the country.
     
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    I don't think that is something specific to the GOP or DNC though...
     
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    That's true, but one group buys it a lot better than the other. As i've said before, Republicans buy what they're sold far more than Democrats do.
     
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    I'm not totally sure how one would quantify that. I would have to go find it, but I thought like a year ago there was some study showing that democrats tended to trust the government and mainstream media more and republicans tended to trust other things more. I don't know if that really quantifies it, but I guess it could be an aspect of that. I think everyone (myself included) is somewhat gullible, or given to trust / like people based on perception rather than evidence and proof that someone is trustworthy.
     
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    Yeah...people seem to think Trump is a Republican anomaly, but the only thing that is anomalous about him is his greater willingness to break the social compact. Republicans (as a party, not necessarily every single individual person) have been playing on racism and sexism to win elections since Nixon. Ronald Reagan's team, which became the elder Bush's team, which partly became and partly molded the younger Bush's team, made extensive use of dog whistles to scare white voters and signal to them that poor black people (and immigrants) were coming for their middle class prosperity and Democrats were just going to let them, but Republicans would protect them. In that sense, Trump isn't remotely an outlier or anything new as a Republican. He just correctly judged the moment and understood that a populist "tell it like it is" (i.e. being rude, insulting and, most of all, explicitly racist and sexist) campaign would make best use of the standard Republican playbook. Or he may have just gotten lucky and happened to run that sort of campaign at the perfect moment for it. Either way, he's not a break from the modern line of Republicans in beliefs and policy--just in style.
     
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    Bernie and Trump actually had quite a bit in common in 2016 when it came to some of the populist stuff.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2...nders-and-donald-trump-have-in-common/422907/

    They also basically hate the democrats and get a lot of that hate back so they have that in common lol.
     
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