Twitter rumor - Blazers to deal F Gerald Wallace for picks

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  1. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    Trade him for what?

    He just was traded for expiring contracts, a late 1st in the next draft and a 1st 3 drafts from the trade. His value was up right now b/c of the desperation of NJN to get him, and of ORL to get rid of him. We got a premium for being facilitators.

    Maybe you're right, that we can get a premium again. I'd really like to know what you have in mind as acceptable fodder in return for him, since 4 1st rounders aren't enough and given that he's going to walk in 17 months (maybe 5). The next three months might be the only window you have to trade him, and the value isn't in player talent (like it is now), it'd be in "expiring contract", which historically doesn't bring much more in trade.
     
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    Well, we didn't get a premium, because orlando didn't want him at the cost of 4 draft picks.
     
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    Sorry, you stepped in for Blazerboy and I projected his previous stuff onto you.
    You didn't read MM's post. I believe his pizza boy.

    Now you're projecting...has anything come out about why they're keeping him? Something like "those 4 picks were too much to give up?" Everything I read made it sound like they just pulled him off the table...didn't want to entertain ANY offer for him. That'll change, I'm sure.
     
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    Thought MM's pizza boy said GS. And said them as a 4th team, not us getting Orlando's pick.

    Sorry, yes, Orlando did not say it was thepicks over Wallace.
     
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    I think with tanking the season that we are clearly about to do, we might as well fire the coach and gm by proxy and wait for this shortened season to end than start a new in the summer. Cause Marcus Camby, Wes Mathews, Batum, LA "if he can play" and Felton I don't think are going to get it done! Hey if we suck the worst maybe we can get the top pick again...
     
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    Post 104
     
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    people still listen to MM spout his "sources"?

    Muahaha
     
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    Gotcha, I'll take people reporting on the NBA over him saying Orlando was going to give up their own pick in a Howard deal.
     
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  9. BrianFromWA

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    no worries. I still haven't seen anything saying 12/14/16 or no ORL involvement. You could totally be right, but it hasn't been reported anywhere I've seen. Especially 5 hours ago.
     
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    Just because Orlando stopped trade talks doesn't mean trades are all finished. Maybe they feel they might be able to make Howard happy. Maybe they might want to see how other deals pan out first? Maybe they are still waiting to see if Lakers are stupid enough to give them both Bynum and Gasol for Howard.
     
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    MM has sources? Better not be a janitor!
     
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    Chad Ford @chadfordinsider
    Nets offered everything they could for Howard: Brook Lopez + FIVE 1st Rd picks. Theirs in 2012, 2014, 2016, 2018 + Rockets 2012 pick.
     
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    It was Chad Ford
     
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    We have talked about this before........ BUT HOW IN THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE TIME AT WORK TO CHAT ON HERE ALL DAY AND NOT GET FIRED!!!!!
     
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    Good, let's put everything on hold for a while. Orlando can see what they got and Ptd can see what they got. Howard and Wallace's trade vaule only increases as the season goes on . . . no hurry to get this done before season starts (unless you are NJ or LA)
     
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    You are including the pick that we ALREADY own in your "4 picks instead of Wallace".

    That is terrible logic. Which basically makes the rest of your post less meaningful.

    Actually, it wasn't solved. It just showed a lack of logic.

    Oden's draft class was considered an amazing class. How did that turn out for us? :dunno:

    Faux outrage? It is a fact that we picked him. There is no emotion or outraged tied to that statement.

    Digging really deep for excuses, and also making an assumption that you have no clue about.

    But probability IS at issue here. And it is working against your analysis, even though it is already flawed.

    And now you resort back to the assumption that we'll draw superstars here with the extra money, and mixing the two issues again. You very well could be right that we could get a superstar here, but it has never happened before.

    Probabilities. Not a game.
     
    blazerboy30, Dec 14, 2011
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    so we could have had NJ 2018 #1? that draft is gonna be loaded! :lol:
     
    3RA1N1AC, Dec 14, 2011
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  19. PtldPlatypus

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    Hey--there's a 7th grader in Delaware that I've been scouting for that draft. He's gonna be sick!
     
    PtldPlatypus, Dec 14, 2011
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    If by sick, you mean with a debilitating disease, then yeah, sounds like that's our target.
     
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