You know whats funny, I have dealt with two cops one good and one bad on one trip. One of my rear lights was out and I knew that but I wanted to see this movie so yes of course knowing I could get pulled over I would be one of the liars, "yeah I didn't know it was out officer, sorry" lol. Anyways I am driving to Clackamas from Damascus and get pulled over by a damascus cop. One of the nicest cops I ever met. Short pull over, even asked what movie I was saying and then my girlfriend and I were out. On the way back, heading through Clackamas we get pulled over by shit cop. He pulled me over for the same thing, I let him know a cop prior told me about it and that's that. Well this cop proceeded to keep me around an extra 30 minutes for whatever reason letting me know he could write me up if he really wanted to. I was being polite the whole time, he even tried to get me on my tinted windows which I knew weren't illegal because I had them checked when I got the car to make sure it was legal. Then he saw my name and asked what school my dad went to. Shit got weird so I was assuming my dad must of really fucked him up in football back in his high school days. It was the perfect good cop bad cop thing. In a nice place too. Clackamas. He was just an asshole on a power trip. That didn't make me go man fuck cops because I know better. There are very good cops and a few bad ones.
and it's a problem because I consider myself liberal but now the idea of liberal is far left. That's how bad they fucked that up. Most actual liberals are the most reasonable type of people. It's exactly what they want, a fantasy land. They don't face the real world or logic head on, it's just their idea of it and it's honestly crazy some of the fantasy land ideas I have heard and you know how I know these ideas are bullshit? they all started not that long ago. I remember just 10 years ago, nobody was saying most of this shit now it's become a standard thing
Yep. everything is all about the individual. Ive had my best friend blatantly set up by a cop that also caused me a shit load of issues up in Washington. Ive also been pulled over with that same friend when he was the only one over 21(I was driving) with open containers in the car and our girls all drinking underage, and they dumped our alcohol out in front of us and told us to go home and if they saw us coming back from the party we were heading to, they would pull us over and take us in. Until we treat all individuals with respect, no matter their race, heritage, occupation... until they prove themselves not worthy of respect, we are just gonna keep going around and around in these violent circles. Peat and repeat...
I'm not suggesting that shootings where it was ambiguous and the cop had reasonable cause to believe he or she was in danger should be viewed as murder. But in cases where it was clear that there was no danger to the cop and they shoot anyway, fairness isn't on the table, but applying laws about murder and manslaughter is completely reasonable, IMO. I understand that cops have a tough and dangerous job and they should get some benefit of the doubt--but not to the point that laws don't apply to them.
Totally agree. I've never been a cop defender. That one that shot the old black guy in the back while he slowly jogged away should get life. I think he took a plea though, can't remember. I want them to have body cameras that record at all times. That opens a huge can of worms though. There is no easy solution.
I also remember that one, was bad. I also think people need to get the full story on some of these cases unless there was clear video of it or a shit load of witnesses. Another thing people do is when a black person is killed by police, it's automatically assumed because of race. While there are cases where it was wrong, some of these are still spread today like it was unjust when the actual facts are a bit different. Michael brown for example. Never had his hands up, that was made up for a clever chant. Clear footage of him strong arming a man and stealing cigs before he got shot, as if people believe a guy of that character could just be innocent. Witnesses went up and down with the case until they started telling the truth. Another one is the Trayvon Martin case. That just happened because two stupid people made dumb decisions. George zimmerman was a paranoid guy and trayvon actually was the one to start hitting him, well george zimmerman carried a firearm and shot him. That was just an extremely unfortunate situation where both could of dealt with that a better way. However there are cases that show was unjust such as Freddie grey or eric garner. The dude named philando I believe who got shot and his girlfriend captured it. I also tend to believe there is no evidence of these being racist cops that did these things at all, if anything they were scared and unfit to be cops and reacting off fear but you know everything is racist these days
Also, it's pretty common protocol that anybody with a knife approaching an officer gets shot. I mean you are just an idiot today if you don't comply. You should know no matter what color if you go reaching for something, you will most likely get shot. I have seen many of these videos and a lot of them also being white people. The issue is this country race baits all the fucking time so they use the black victims to further this agenda that police are somehow hunting black dudes which isn't true at all.
