The rich get richer I suppose....*sigh* Lakers getting Hinrich for Morrison and Vujacic is crazy. Only LA could do that.
I have to agree. Kirk is the best player in the deal and it plugs a needs at PG for them. It would suck if we helped the Lakers without making them give up more talent.
Hinrich's last 3 years he's had PERs of 13.1, 13.9, and a 10.4 this season. For a comparison, Steve Blake has had PERs of 12.0, 14.4, and an 11.4 this season. I see Hinrich as being vastly overrated.
Depends on how you define best player. Of all the players in the trade, only Travis Outlaw has had a PER above 15 the past three seasons, and Tyrus Thomas just misses with 14.6, 15.9, and 16.4 this season. I'd value Thomas as the best player in the deal, at least in terms of what he'll bring to Portland versus what Hinrich will bring to Los Angeles.
Could we possibly swing Vujacic for something better or more useful for us? Any ideas out there? James Jones from Miami (or do they desperately want the cap space of an expiring, this year) Kurt Thomas and something Milwaukee doesn't want? Dalembert somehow? There's gotta be something out there that makes sense. Maybe we want Tyrus to flip him to Minnesota for a contract and the rights to Rubio? And do you think Howard gets cut and comes back to us if this goes through?
If that could be done I think Chicago would do that deal and run a Rubio/Rose backcourt. Come on, man!
Try to package his expiring this summer in a deal, and if that's not possible, just flat-out renounce him. No sense keeping him around in 2010-11 just to save $5 million in cap space after the season.
Chicago is pretty intent on keeping cap space and won't take back any contracts is my understanding. We could take back a contract Minnesota didn't especially like or something like that. And no chance in hell Rubio/Rose would work, neither can shoot, and both would get posted up quite a bit. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yh8sggf /\ would that really be a bad trade. Minnesota essentially reduces their salarys by seven million next year and gets Tyrus Thomas. They either sell Rubio for seven million, or trade him for Tyrus (while having a chance to audition him). Chicago saves a crapload of money as they only take on expirings, LA gets Hinrich, we get jack but wait for Rubio.
Maybe KP is just bluffing all of the people that have been hoping to see a trade for the past year; this is sort of like his shot across the bow to get all of them screaming to put the brakes on.
I like adding Thomas. I really don't care if Vujacic is on our team. Let him rot. I'd actually rather he rot on our bench so I never have to see him on the floor again. Let him fill the role of Raef. Scrub at large. It would be funny if we ended up with both Aldridge and Thomas though. With that said, we don't give up much and we get a guy with tons of potential. Nice backup power forward. He shouldn't be too expensive this summer either. I love the idea of getting rid of Blake and Outlaw though. I don't see us signing them this summer so it's all good. We give up three guys who have very little chance of being here next year, and we get a guy who could very easily be a big part of our future. Good deal imo.
I'm coming around to this way of thinking, but I'm telling you reading some of the posts in here have been brutal; basically everything I see looks like this in my head: