U.S. Navy confiscates all Bibles from Hotels on Bases

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  1. 3RA1N1AC

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    But seriously, what are the soldiers supposed to use for rolling paper now?
     
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    MadeFromDust Well-Known Member

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    Why do they need to be removed?
     
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    Because giving our troops a form of hope is bad...? The Bibles are (were) there, nobody is forcing anyone to read them. But acting aggressively and then celebrating a victory when they are removed is an act of a clear agenda by militant atheists who despise God and the Christian faith, hatred towards inanimate objects that do nobody any harm but can give people comfort and hope.
     
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    Sounds like they're beginning a new policy where all material needs to be approved by the on base chaplain. So they are starting from scratch, and removing any and all items in the rooms prior to this approval process. Once they're removed, the gideons can go and ask permission to put them there, or whoever.
     
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    By only having the bible, is the gov't showing preference towards a certain religion?
     
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    Yeah we'll see about that, I'm sure the same group who vouched to have them taken away will be just fine with that.
     
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    Honestly, if I'm the type of guy that likes to sit in my hotel room and read the bible, I'd probably bring my own, just to make sure
     
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    Again, who is stopping anyone else from placing their holy books in the drawers of hotel nightstands? Would the atheists have the same issue if the book of Mormon and the Bhagvadad Gita were placed there? I seriously doubt it.
     
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    You seem to be up in arms about an aggressive act that is reported with quite a bit of spin from right leaning sites. Maybe they won't be ok with that. But you're preemptively getting upset about something yet to happen. Did you read the memo put out, or just a report from conservative tribune ?
    Seems like the type of site that's going to just lay out all the facts and let you decide.
     
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    I would too, but the fact that they must be removed is what makes this newsworthy.
     
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    Yeah I agree. Anyone in any faith has their own tools.
     
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    I've seen what these groups have tried to do before, claiming the Ground Zero cross made them "nauseous" and needed to be removed. This is nothing new, and these people have a track record of pushing their own agenda on the general public while ignoring their own hypocrisy. I'm not saying all atheists are like this, but there are groups out there who have just as much dogma as any religious sect you'll ever see.
     
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    I think the gov't should stay out of religion all together. By supplying a bible, they seem to intermingling state and religion to me. BUt maybe these hotels are independent of the gov't.

    I like what the joint roller said, if someone is going to read a bible in a hotel, you would think they would bring their own. Seems easy enough . . .
     
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    Are you going to point out the hypocrisy for me?
     
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    Then maybe we should abolish free speech altogether, because I guarantee you a Christian group had these Bibles placed in these hotels, and had every right to do so.
     
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    Free bible with every escort!

    Problem solved!
     
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    The complaints of forcing ones' beliefs on someone else and then seeing stuff like this qualifies as hypocrisy in my book. Maybe it would be different if I knew that these atheist groups didn't have an irrational hatred towards religion and Christianity in specific. They see a Bible, "I'm melting! I'm melting!"
     
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    Why must they be there in the first place? I think this is just humanity exhibiting their detachment from spirituality, similar to the fact that there is no longer a sage cleansing ritual to remove the demons in your room either.
     
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    If that's the case, then an athiest group having them removed is simply fair play, no?
     
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    Who said the government supplied the Bibles? Generally Bibles placed in hotel rooms are placed by the Gideons, and that is done in hotels both on and off government property. Allowing them to do that is not in any way a government endorsement of any religion, unless that permission was solely reserved for Christians and no other group (which it is not). The universal removal of Bibles from hotel rooms, however, could easily be construed as a government statement against Christianity.

    However, having not actually read the article, I make no claims regarding the constitutionality of what may or may not actually be occurring.
     

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