Uh Oh! The only bid cosidered?? Michelle Obama's classmate?

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  1. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    FIFY
     
  2. MarAzul

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    Actually this law was not confirmed as you say by the Judicial Branch. I believe the Chief Justice said the individual mandate was a Tax as it has to be a tax to be legal as the the Congress does indeed have the power to lay taxes. That ruling does seem correct and supported by the first paragraph in Section 8 as follows;

    "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;
    but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;"

    However what was left unsaid and therefore leaving the ruling short of complete confirmation of the law is that the Tax is a direct tax and therefore prohibited by the Constitution in Section 9 as follows;

    "No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken."

    The Sixteenth amendment was passed to permit direct taxes on income but nothing else so the individual mandate tax would still be prohibited by "No direct Tax shall be laid"

    The first person that has this tax laid on them or any other that do would have standing to challenge the legality in court. Congress needs to correct this error, I believe the Chief
    Justice said this rather clearly if not directly.
     
  3. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    If your opinion differs I wouldn't want to give it either.
     
  4. TradeNurkicNow

    TradeNurkicNow piss

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    Are you asking my opinion on the strawman argument you created, or?
     
  5. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Huh? You asked the fucking question. Your opinion will be whatever you think the people on your side want you to think.
     
  6. TradeNurkicNow

    TradeNurkicNow piss

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    Calm your tits, broseph. You apparently already know my answer to your question, but my question was different. Look:

    To which I replied:

    To which you thought I meant:

    So, if you took the time to read the thread, you would see that I'm not suggesting that Americans shouldn't get the contract. I was questioning why Mags thought that Obama should necessarily give the contract to Americans.

    What do you think?
     
  7. oldguy

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    So, if I have this right, Haliburton's no-bid contracts under Bush/Cheney were a bad thing, but the website fiasco under Obama/Biden is 'who cares, Bush was worse.'


    Go Blazers
     
  8. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Seems that way…. And was Bush really worse? I mean Obama has hit us with debt greater than all the presidents combined. I guess he is better. Better at destroying our country's economics
     
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    If you can't see the difference, there isn't much hope of me explaining it.
     

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