Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    Putin on the run? Russia will now scale back its Ukraine invasion to just ‘liberating’ the eastern Donbas region 'in an attempt to save face' as Western intelligence says they have lost 20 BATTALIONS
    • Russia's defence ministry also updated its losses in Ukraine to 1,351 soldiers
    • Figure is far lower than Western intelligence estimates over tens of thousands
    • Moscow today attempted to put a positive spin on its disastrous invasion
    • It said it had achieved its targets in the country, despite being pushed back
    • In another embarrassing blow, it was revealed today that a Russian brigade commander had died after being run down with a tank by his own troops
    • Despite apparent change in tactics artillery strikes on Ukraine's cities continued
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-invasion-just-liberating-eastern-Donbas.html

     
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    Ukraine Has Launched Counteroffensives, Reportedly Surrounding 10,000 Russian Troops

    The claims of Ukrainian counteroffensives in the area surrounding Kyiv began more than a week ago. Now we have our first objective observations confirming that, yes, the Ukrainian army is on the move. And the Russians near Ukraine’s capital city could be in big trouble.

    For three weeks after widening its war on Ukraine starting on the night of Feb. 23, the Russian army steadily advanced the roughly 50 miles from the Belarusian border to the outskirts of Kyiv. A separate, southwestward thrust from Russia into northeastern Ukraine reached the city of Chernihiv, 80 miles north of Kyiv.

    A Russian air assault on Hostomel airport near the capital, beginning the first day of the wider war and carried out by Mi-8 assault helicopters hauling hundreds of paratroopers, ended in disaster for the Russians.

    But the main ground assault, led by the Russian 29th, 35th and 36th Combined Arms Armies west of Kyiv and the 2nd and 41st CAAs east of the capital, was more successful in the short term. The Russian surrounded and besieged Chernihiv while creating a very loose, incomplete cordon around Kyiv at a distance of a dozen or more miles.

    That success was fleeting. The Kremlin had planned on a swift capture of Kyiv and the immediate collapse of the Ukrainian government, all within two or three days. When that didn’t happen, the flaws in the Russian army’s planning became apparent.

    Units were poorly led, under-equipped and—most critically—inadequately sustained. The Russian army never had enough trucks for its logistical battalions to keep up with a fast-moving invasion force. That shortfall grew steadily worse as the war stretched into its second, third and fourth weeks—and Ukrainian drones and missileers began taking out trucks by the dozens.

    The upshot is that Russia’s attempted encirclement of Kyiv stalled out as the Kremlin scrambled to reinforce shattered, starving battalions. "They're actually not trying to advance right now,” a senior U.S. defense official said of the Russians on Thursday. “They're taking more defensive positions."

    While the Russians dug in, a general mobilization added tens of thousands of fresh troops to the Ukrainians’ ranks. Ukrainian battalions began rolling east from the relative safety of the country’s west. On or around March 19, these battalions made contact with the Russians west of Kyiv.

    That’s when the momentum of the war may have begun changing. The first rumors that Ukrainian battalions had launched a counteroffensive west of Kyiv were impossible to distinguish from propaganda. On Thursday, however, we saw the first hard evidence of that operation, in the form of NASA’s fire-detecting satellites.

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    The Fire Information for Resource Management System, or FIRMS, satellites registered a very telling pattern of fires around Hostomel and Irpin, just west of Kyiv.

    The blazes signaled intensive fighting along the roads threading through Hostomel and Irpin toward the capital. A similar pattern of fires was evident farther to the northwest, along the main supply routes connecting the Russian army to its railheads in Belarus.

    The flames tell a story—of sustained clashes between reinforced Ukrainian battalions and idling, exhausted Russian battalions. The advantage appears to be with the Ukrainians, who on Wednesday claimed they had liberated Makariv, a town 30 miles west of Kyiv.

    As the Ukrainians close in on the Russians from the west while maintaining a strong defensive line to the east, they’re creating a pocket, surrounding the very Russian vanguard that, just a couple weeks earlier, had threatened to surround Kyiv.

    This pocket, reportedly containing around 10,000 Russian troops from the 35th and 36th CAAs, is extremely vulnerable. As the Russians run out of food and ammunition, they may begin surrendering en masse—or risk annihilation.

    The Ukrainian counteroffensive isn’t limited to the region west of Kyiv. A separate effort on the other side of the city is under way, as well. On Tuesday, the Russians were just 12 or so miles from eastern Kyiv. Two days later, they’d retreated 20 miles farther to the east and north, according to the Pentagon.

    Ukraine’s counteroffensive around Kyiv doesn’t immediately relieve pressure on the besieged cities of Chernihiv and Kharkiv in the east and Mariupol in the south. It doesn’t immediately help Ukrainian forces fighting to liberate the southern city of Kherson from Russian occupiers.

    But that could change. If the Ukrainian army can close and eliminate the pocket of Russian troops west of Kyiv, commanders might be able to shift forces east and south in order to launch or bolster counteroffensives there.

    More broadly, the Ukrainian operation around Kyiv underscores the conclusion many observers of the war reached after just two weeks. Russia is no longer winning. And it might actually be losing.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davida...ounding-10000-russian-troops/?sh=1e0185321170
     
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    Glory to Ukraine.
     
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    Wow. Seriously effed up times ahead...
     
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    tldr fuck Putin

    pero seriously that was a satisfying read
     
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    Some of my sauces which seem pretty objective say that the whole 'retaking of Makariv' seems to be some manipulation in reporting and in actuality Ukraine had retaken that city much earlier on around March 6th and haven't lost control since then.

    And apparently the stories we're hearing about there being a pocket of Russian soldiers who could get cut off is also propaganda. Russia still has operational control of the area between Makariv and the Ukrainian line around Kyiv.

    Also regarding the area east of Kyiv - It's true that Ukraine pushed the Russian line that was east of Kyiv North, however there's still Russian military to the northeast of Kyiv within about 10-15 km. And Russian is still only about 10km away to the west/northwest.

    But what does seem true is that Russia doesn't seem to have the ability to actually go on the offensive around Kyiv at the moment.

    Claims that Ukraine has recaptured Irpin also seem to be premature as there is still heaving fighting there.

    In the east, it sounds like Russia broke through the Ukrainian line just south of Izium, and then went south. If Ukrainian forces can't stop them there's the potential to encircle Ukrainian forces further south. If true, this could be a very bad turn of events for Ukraine.

    In Mariupol, Russian forces have made progress from the west and the line is basically in the center of the city. On the eastern side of the city Ukraine is doing a little better at the moment but the area under Ukrainian control continues to shrink.

    Meanwhile up at the Belarusian border there could be around 10k troops ready to support the Russians, either on Kyiv or Chernihiv.


    I'm not there so take it with a grain of salt, but suffice to say I don't think things are as amazing as we're being told. Ukraine continues to over-perform but I still think they're going to need direct military assistance at some point. Unfortunately the rest of the world continues not to act.
     
  10. Natebishop3

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    What you should be asking is if I would have posted these if they weren't all attractive :devilwink:
     
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    I don't know how gasoline isn't regulated more.... it's absurd that they have been able to gouge us on the price of gas while oil prices are low.
     
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    I believe the gas prices on the west coast are reflecting an unscheduled problem in a large refinery in Torrance, CA - so it is not directly related to the oil prices at this point. My understanding is that we are probably 2 weeks out of this refinery going back online as expected - but now there is a strike at another refinery. So, this is more supply chain issue now than crude price.
     
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    Russian general Yakov Rezantsev killed in Ukraine


    Ukraine's defence ministry says another Russian general, Lt Gen Yakov Rezantsev, was killed in a strike near the southern city of Kherson.


    Rezantsev was the commander of Russia's 49th combined army.

    A western official said he was the seventh general to die in Ukraine, and the second lieutenant general - the highest rank officer reportedly killed.

    It is thought that low morale among Russian troops has forced senior officers closer to the front line.

    In a conversation intercepted by the Ukrainian military, a Russian soldier complained that Rezantsev had claimed the war would be over within hours, just four days after it began.

    Ukrainian media reported on Friday that the general was killed at the Chornobaivka airbase near Kherson, which Russia is using as a command post and has been attacked by Ukraine's military several times.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60807538
     
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    Gas prices on the west coast are ALWAYS the highest. Always have been. I’ll say it again, I don’t know why people complain about the price of gas…..what’s the alternative….you gonna walk? Nope you’re going to pay for it and move on. And before one of you fires off a post about buying an EV, save that shit. If you think gas is expensive, wait til you try to purchase one of those. And before the same people fire a off a post about how so in so car is really inexpensive…..you get what you pay for. Let it go. Everybody is in the same situation. Either walk or pay up.
     
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    That's like... what... 8 generals now?
     
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    Just filled my truck, man I love driving my 2013 pick up. Rather drive that than my wifes new Honda.
     
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