Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. UKRAINEFAN

    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

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    Not true. When russia invaded in 2022, Ukraine had a few hundred hand held anti tank weapons and a few broken down humvees. They knocked russia out of Kyiv and back to the border with almost exclusively old soviet weapons. And a few Bayrakter drones.
     
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    He will pull out of certain areas and negotiate a siege
    And from the US standpoint its some pay back from Nam.
     
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    I've never heard that one. But that wouldn't make it any less egregiously stupid
     
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    The only stupid thing would be anybody launching nukes. That would be suicide for whoever runs that country.
     
  5. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You worry a lot about Russia's feelings.

    Are you in a relationship with Russia?

    barfo
     
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    It's just business.
     
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    Wise leaders understood that you need to be able to view things from the eyes of your opposition. Better to worry about Russias feelings then suffer the consequences of ww3.

    We'll all die in a nuclear exchange. But at least I'll die knowing I'm not a fool.
     
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    Hmm, wonder if Belarus is about to participate in a joint invasion with Russia, deep into Ukraine, to knock out the Ukrainian regime. This is actually good, as it would bring a quicker end to the war.
     
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    Hoping that Ukraine fails is evil. There is no coming back from that. You're literally supporting the Hitler of our day.
     
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    I hope their government falls too, absolutely. Fuck them and their corrupt little napoleon leader. And LOL at the hitler comment. Russia defeated the Nazis bud, and lost millions to accomplish it. Same Nazis who just so happened to march through the same lands Ukraine and NATO have been encroaching and posturing on in recent times. Russia being defensive is no surprise. There is a long history in that region; you should study it some.
     
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    I have studied it. Nothing Russia did was defensive. It was offensive. Empire building. It was a grab for resources.

    Once again, rooting for Russia to defeat Ukraine is evil. In every sense. I also want peace as soon as possible. In order for that to happen, Russia will have to stop and give back the land they've taken illegally. There are legal borders they have agreed to, and they need to retreat back to them and cease all aggression. Once they do that, I will support making Ukraine retreat to the their own territory.
     
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    You don’t though. You’ve been cheerleading this failed policy of propping up Ukraine since this all began, now hundreds of thousands are dead for a few acres here or there. Ukraine, the US and NATO provoked this conflict by lying about the expansion of NATO onto Russian borders, which had always been well known to be a hardline issue for Russia. Russia is doing exactly what they’ve warned they would do for years if NATO expansion continued. Russia attacked first but it was absolutely and intentionally provoked by the US, NATO and the puppet government of Ukraine.
     
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    A few acres? Russia was attacking the capital of Ukraine. There was a 40 mile column heading directly to Kyiv. Putin was clearly trying to take the whole country. Ukrainian resistance with help from their western allies is the only reason Ukraine is still a sovereign nation.

    *Edit* Not to mention, Russia had already taken Crimea, which needs to be returned.
     
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    So if you are warned, the consequences are your fault, no matter how unreasonable and illogical the warning is?

    Ok, if you post again in support of Putin, I will silently edit your posts so that it looks like you are a huge fan of Ukraine instead. You've been warned.

    You'll have no complaint if I carry out that threat, right? None at all, because... you've been warned.

    barfo
     
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    Further, NATO has never made any treaty with provisions regarding limiting membership or expansion. Russia signed a treaty guaranteeing to recognize and respect and even defend Ukraine's borders including Ukrainian Crimea.

    Russia is the only country in this situation in violation of any treaties or agreements.
     
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    We should invite Russia to join NATO!

    #ProblemSolved
     
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