Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    You've been dead ass wrong thus far.

    Ukraine isn't surrendering any time soon.
     
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    Have I? If the war is going so well for Ukraine, why do we keep escalating? Crossing boundaries we once said we would not (such as providing tanks, jets), then recently we were very close to allowing Ukraine to strike deep into Russia.

    How much of the Donbas region was Ukraine able to reclaim over the past year?

    Russia will not lose. Even if they did start to lose conventionally, do you want to test their restraint in not dropping a tactical nuke? If you support this conflict, you're supporting a game of nuclear chicken.
     
  3. riverman

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    Paranoia strikes deep
    Into your life it will creep
    It starts when you're always afraid
    Step outta line, the man come and take you away
    It's time we stop take a look around
    Everybody look what's going down!
    (Stephen Still's lyrics from over 50 years ago and we're still not a steaming radioactive pile of carbon ash....go figure?)
     
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  4. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I don't see how you can with any degree of seriousness espouse a "Give Russia what they want because if you don't they'll drop nukes" philosophy. Has appeasement ever proven historically to be a legitimate diplomatic position?
     
  5. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Start practicing hiding under school desks or in school basements like we did. You'll be surprised at how much better it will make you feel......
     
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  6. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    When did I say it's going well? The fact that there is war means it is not going well.

    Russia cannot be allowed to win. That simply encourages further attacks. That's why the Allies are escalating. The Allies are going to drain Russia dry and end their ability or desire to attack anybody in the future.

    It will happen slowly and unfortunately Ukraine is going to suffer a long time because of it.

    The Allies will not escalate to the point that Russia will have a legitimate reason to use nukes. If Russia uses nukes it will be the end of this regime. It will not be the end of the people. But using nukes will cost this regime more than it could ever gain.
     
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  7. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    At this point, Putin has his little minions busy trolling the internet and spewing disinformation to try to ensure a Trump victory so that he can use Dummy Donnie to get what he wants. I don’t think his fingers are twitching to start a nuclear war that no one can win just yet.
     
  8. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It works really well - if you are the one being appeased.

    barfo
     
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  9. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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  10. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

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    President Zelensky visited a plant in Pennsylvania that manufactured artillery shells they use to defend themselves. He was on TV autographing the shells. He was thanking the workers there.
    It wouldn't be a partisan issue in the past but now Republicans are party of Putin.
     
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  11. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    The truly fair thing to do is invite Putin to Pennsylvania.
     
  12. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Shit, now trump will sign shells going to Israel.
     
  13. Kano John

    Kano John Start 'em young!

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    No need - I think Zelensky is planning to send some of those signed shells directly to Putin - via airmail!
     
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    Lol. Nice wording. I don’t think that’s how those work.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Everything Ukraine does to fight Russia is self defense until Russia withdraws to the borders they agreed to when Ukraine gave up it's nuclear arsenal.
     
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  16. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    I dont see Putin withdrawing, he's too egotistical. The Russian people will need to take care of him once and for all.
     
  17. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, this isn't going to end for a while. Honestly the only solution that prevents Russia from causing more problems is to bleed them dry. Keep them here until they simply can't go anymore and collapse.
     
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    Hope so! I think they are depending on China and Iran to support them any way they can. NATO best be prepared take on all three at once if need too.
     
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    Russia is hoping Trump gets elected and ends aid to Ukraine, forcing them to surrender.
     
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  20. MickZagger

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    Mike Johnson has always came across as a cuck.
     

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