Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. jonnyboy

    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    Ah, there it is. The obligatory insult comment that lets me know the opponent has given up.
     
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    Oceana has unisex bathrooms.
     
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    Oh my goodness. You poor sweet baby...
     
  4. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Ummm.......the only person running around this board screaming about WWIII coming is @beast blazer. He's constantly terrified Putin is going to use nukes while the rest of us are pretty much saying, "bring it on" because we don't believe him. We've been pretty freakin' consistent, so I'm not sure what thin air you're pulling this most recent accusation from......Putin wants Russia's former (illicitly occupied) territories back. He's not getting any closer so he resorts to bluffing. The MAGAts are the ones pushing the WWIII narrative as an excuse to pull support for Ukraine.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Exactly
     
  6. Phatguysrule

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    Great time for the military industrial complex to send their winter catalog to Georgia. Blackrock may give them a good quote on a rebuild as well.
     
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    "Georgia should just let Russia take what they want!"
     
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    This is some heavy reading but I think it's important. I wish Trump had the patience and inclination to read it so he would know that it's important to be patient right now and not make huge concessions for peace. It's an analysis by Former Russian Deputy Minister of Energy Vladimir Milov of their economy. Three things I got from it:
    1. They aren't recruiting nearly as many men every month as the amount of casualties suffered. and Putin can't mobilize further because of bad effect on economy and inflation.
    2. They are running out of financial reserves and the interest rates on bond funding is very high. russia will not be able to finance it's budget deficits after 2025.
    3. Most companies are suffering from not enough workers and too high interest rates; they are not profitable and cannot survive indefinitely.
    https://frontelligence.substack.com/p/war-deficits-and-the-russian-economy
     
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  12. riverman

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    Putin lost about 45 thousand soldiers in the month of Nov alone...he's sending ground troops into suicide missions ...this isn't sustainable.
     
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    Folks can finger point at global military safeguards and play the "we're not a war like people" card all they want but fact is we were all born into a violent, heavily armed world of conflicting ideologies and aggressive political factors. It's not changing in your lifetime. The peace marches of the 60s didn't take. People by nature aren't peaceful. I think it's ironic that someone claiming to be against the protection of sovereign nation status in face of invasion would choose to raise a family at ground zero for our own nuclear missile sites. If we don't protect NATO and the Taiwan's and Ukraine's of the world from dictatorial bullying, we'll end up needing to rebuild our own backyard and sift through the rubble. I'd like to see the world disarm but under the current social strains, people have bought more and more weapons. Another school shooting in Calif today. This never happened in my country a few decades ago. It makes me sick. Under Trump the military will get bigger and social services will drop off. That's what you right wing Joe Rogan groupies wanted and looks like you got it. Bernie Sanders social democracy makes sense over Trump's classist rule of capitalistic race baiters, Karens and misogynists. Thankfully I live in a place that supports my beliefs for the most part. Barack Obama is starting a new coalition in Chicago to protect democracy and seems to be organizing a movement to assure checks and balances remain in place for four more years under the orange fraudster. I will donate to his cause. I hope Ukraine survives and guts Putin's ability to ever invade a neighbor again.
     
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    What a stupid myopic post. You can't even string together coherent thoughts. Were you on something when you wrote this? I mean JFC, I'll take just once sentence, "I think it's ironic that someone claiming to be against the protection of sovereign nation status in face of invasion would choose to raise a family at ground zero for our own nuclear missile sites".

    There are nuclear missile sites all over the fucking US. What is ironic about that? Are those who live in close proximity to nuclear weapons supposed to be in favor of engaging in a conflict with Russia? There's a logical reason why the reverse would be true, though it's a moot point anyway, because no one would survive.
     
  15. Hoopguru

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    Russia pulled out of Afghanistan after 7 years, and one significant reason was crumbling economy, along with eventual weapons supplied by USA/Saudi that could take down their Mi 8's and 24 choppers.
     
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    Mike Johnson said no more aid for Ukraine after Republicans take over.
     
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  17. riverman

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    Russia is way more financially constrained now than Ukraine after Biden gave them a parting chunk of change...NATO has been funding and arming Ukraine beyond what we've supplied them. .Russia may not out last Ukraine this time around as far as resources go. Their North Korean troops are poorly trained for combat as well. I think Ukraine can weather the storm regardless of our govt burning bridges overseas again.
     
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    Wow, you really do add nothing
     
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    Nothing? Nothing tra-la-la?
     
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    Europe will pick up the slack.
     
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