Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    Steve Witkoff, Florida real estate attorney with no diplomatic experience, who is leading US negotiations on Ukraine, went on Tucker Carlson to gush about Putin. Putin is so gracious and intelligent. He prayed for Trump after Trump was shot. He commissioned one of Russia's leading artists to paint a portrait of Trump to present to him as a gift.
    Witkoff then went on to repeat Russian talking points on Ukraine, including blaming Ukraine for being unwilling to cede territory.
     
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    I'm ready to cede North Dakota to Canada.
     
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    He is disgusting, and either not very smart or has been bought.
     
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    Typical Trump appointee. Unqualified. Lacking knowledge of subject. Loyal to master and in this case master's master.
     
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    From the Moscow Times; they have sources inside russia. The article has a lot in it.
    @SavchenkoReview
    [​IMG] The Kremlin is betting on removing Zelensky from power in the hope of replacing him with a more accommodating leadership, - The Moscow Times
    The Kremlin is still pursuing maximalist goals. The maximum program is Kyiv's capitulation, regime change, and a reboot of Ukrainian statehood on Russian terms.
    The minimum program is establishing control over four new regions within their administrative borders while simultaneously limiting Kyiv's political and military independence.
    There is also a third option - discrediting Zelensky as a negotiable counterpart in the eyes of Trump.
    The current task is to "achieve unbearable pressure from Washington" on Zelensky and force Kyiv to hold presidential elections.
    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025...to-replace-zelensky-risking-trumps-ire-a88527
     
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    This is positive, that it is bi-partisan; hopefully will put some pressure on Trump to do something.

    Half of the Senate, led by Sens. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican, and Richard Blumenthal, Connecticut Democrat, introduced a bipartisan bill on Tuesday to impose sanctions against Russia if the Kremlin refuses to negotiate a peace deal to end the war in Ukraine.

    The 50 Senate original co-sponsors are equally split among Republicans and Democrats, showing broad bipartisan support.

    “The dominating view in the United States Senate is that Russia is the aggressor, and that this horrific war and Putin’s aggression must end now and be deterred in the future,” the senators said in a joint statement.
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/new...partisan-russia-sanctions-bill-bolster-peace/
     
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    Are you absolutely sure this wasn't an article in The Onion?? Or is this an April fool's joke by the (rag) Washington Times? Because an article on Lindsey Graham doing the right thing is either massive satire or a huge joke........
     
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    Lindsey Graham is a complicated guy and he might be Trump's closest friend (after Putin :) ). Seriously, he has been advocating for Ukraine consistently except for when he criticized Zelensky after the ambush at the WH.
     
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    Trump won't even allow his ambassador to use the word "russian" in describing the latest attack using cluster ammo from a missile on civilians. He is heartless and morally corrupt.
     
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    I wonder how long before Ukraine just builds some nukes?
     
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    Yeh, just what was that love gesture from Witkoff for Putin yesterday? Just that one photo shows everything that is wrong in the Trump Team. 32 dead in Sumy when a missile with cluster ammo hit in the middle of civilian district on a quiet Sunday morning.
    @bayraktar_1love
    When war crimes go unanswered, and handshakes with smiles replace consequences, the message is clear: kill more — we allow it.
    [​IMG]
     
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    For some reason videos of the result of the attack are not successfully posting here. Tried a couple.
     
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    Trump referred to Russia bombings on Palm Sunday as "mistake".

    Throwing a pass out of bounds is a mistake. Bombing civilian worshippers is a war crime.
     
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    Watching this made me proud to be an American again. Ordinary Americans understand that one of their own fighting for Ukraine is a real hero.
     
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    So much for ending the war even before inauguration. Rubio said US about to give up on negotiating end to war against Ukraine.
     
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    If I were any foreign National I wouldn’t rely on US aid or support for the next four years. We have corrupt leadership as it stands and a bleak system of checks and balances
     
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    As a US citizen I'm not even relying on any of that for the next 4 years...
     
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