Politics Under Sanders, income and jobs would soar, economist says

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  1. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Really? You don't care, as long as everyone owns a car or a house? I'm glad I convinced you. So you don't think it matters if the top 1% are reduced to owning 1 or 2%. Great!
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    More babbling.

    I don't care as long as the top 1% aren't crowding out everyone else. They're not.

    The only thing going on is people getting their panties in a wad over someone else making more or owning more than you.

    Boo fucking hoo
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    I already knew you're no good with numbers, but answering "blah blah" to my numerical proof that your previous post proves you wrong is...what I expect from someone who thinks that climate scientists are crooks out to make money.
     
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    That's a gross exaggeration Denny...people are upset not because someone has more than them but rather that a lot of hard working families are just getting by..and not because they're lazy, but because they are priced out of a middle income life that is increasingly hard to achieve. Wages don't match the cost of living these days..Many of the wealthy are disconnected from that reality.
     
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    You're really babbling on and on making little sense.

    Bernie's plan is $.6T short. It's not saving anyone any money. It's just running up the debt by $.6T every year, and likely bu more than that as time goes by.

    For that $2.6T, $2T paid for, we get a worse quality of health care.

    Medicare is a massive money pit. So let's make a bigger money pit!

    http://davidstockmanscontracorner.c...itymedicare-deficit-72-trillion-and-counting/

    The Long-Range Social Security/Medicare Deficit: $72 Trillion And Counting

     
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    The debt will run up less than it would have. The quality of care will remain the same. Finally, Stockman's $72T warning is what will happen if you win and the status quo remains. The government needs to do something about health care costs, and Republicans aren't up to the complex job..

    Usually I'm either asleep or reading science articles, but today I'm here picking on Denny. This won't last.
     
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    2/3 of people own homes. That's not just "getting by."

    The average price of a home is $175K in the USA, and appreciation historically has been 3.5%. Not only does your mortgage/rent become fixed, it decreases with inflation, and that $175K property doubles in value over 20 years.

    I have no sympathy for your argument.

    There's simply no crowding out effect of the rich being rich.
     
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    The debt will run up $.6T MORE THAN IT WOULD HAVE.
     
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    owning your home is different from the bank owning your home though....I own mine but my daughter has a mortgage
     
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    45% of americans pay no federal income tax. That's bullshit. And i'm so tired of people complaining about college. I went to college between 2005-2009, and i cam out with 8k in debt. Total! Cause im not a dipshit.

    I did well in high school, which gave me some scholarships. Got some grants, worked summers during college, and 6 months into my job in 2009 had my college paid off.
     
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    Strange you look at the discussion as an argument Denny...I look at it as a discussion and between you and me...I'm not looking for sympathy...you can try to define me as a self imposed victim, but that's not really going to work in my case
     
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    Children + prisoners + handicapped make up at least 35%, so you're really saying only 10%, many of them rich. The college students with the most debt are from private colleges, and half of them are religious colleges. Eliminate religious colleges, or even all private colleges, and you eliminate most college debt.
     
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    Or how about.... DONT FUCKING GO! You know, it is a decision right?
     
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    I dont think this includes children

    The number of individuals and married couples paying no federal income tax has risen to 45.3 percent — up five percentage points from the Tax Policy Center’s original estimate two years ago.

    The TPC forecasted in 2013 that the number of households not paying federal taxes would fall to 40.4 percent, crediting an improving economy and the expiration of temporary tax cuts designed to stimulate the economy.

    New data from Joint Commission on Taxation led the TPC to cut the number of people paying federal income taxes by 3.9 million. In total, 77.5 million individuals and married couples — or tax units. as they are defined by the TPC — won’t pay income tax this year out of a total of 171.3 million. The previous estimate was for 66.2 million out of 163.8 million tax units not paying income tax in 2015

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/07/i...ll-pay-no-federal-income-taxes/#ixzz400SbMu2N
     
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    30% of the people own their homes outright.
     
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    I look at discussion as rhetoric. You make various arguments, supported by facts, logic, anecdote, etc.

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    first thread with an infomercial break
     
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    If government spends $0, it runs up $0 in deficit. If it spends $2.6T, it runs up $.6T in deficits.

    $.6T - $0 is $.6T in increased deficits.

    Subtraction. Learned it in grade school. You?
     
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    You seem like you're completely devoid of empathy and compassion.
     
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