yup sluts.... sad. It all depends on the change.. If its heads well... and if its tails... woof woof style.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Jan 23 2007, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I had sex when I was 14</div>That I DO have a problem with. I mean, 14's not far from like 12. And 2 12 year olds 'doing it' is totally wrong. Nothing under 17 is anywhere near right. Just plain wrong. I assume you had hit puberty by that time ?<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jan 24 2007, 06:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I thought you said you "had" to be 18 before you had sex. Changing your story now?</div>Well essentially I meant a senior in high school. 17 is for sure though. That's more of a coming of age age than 18 internationally.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Jan 22 2007, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Let them do it, and let them suffer the consequences of being careless.</div>amen<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I am for it and against it. It depends on how extreme it is. If it's a 19 year old having sex with a 16 year old I have no problem with it. If it's a 23 year old having sex with a 12 year old yeah I do have a problem with that.</div>We're debating underage sex, not pedophillia<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>That I DO have a problem with. I mean, 14's not far from like 12. And 2 12 year olds 'doing it' is totally wrong. Nothing under 17 is anywhere near right. Just plain wrong. I assume you had hit puberty by that time ?</div>14 is the same distance developmentally from 17 as it is from 12, so that's a moot point to say "it's not far from twelve"My opinion on this argument is that if you do something stupid, deal with it, your general intelligence stops increasing after 16 so if anything that should be the barrier
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jan 24 2007, 07:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What about 7 and 8?</div>That would never happen but if so I blame the parents.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Jan 25 2007, 01:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That would never happen but if so I blame the parents.</div>it's happened before......
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Jan 25 2007, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>14 is the same distance developmentally from 17 as it is from 12, so that's a moot point to say "it's not far from twelve"</div>No it's not. If you're 12 you've likely not started puberty. If you're 14, you're at best starting puberty. At 17 you're definitely into it and somewhat toward the end. Don't say 14 isn't developmentally the same from 17 as 12, it's obviously closer to 12, don't be an idiot.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ginger Jesus @ Jan 25 2007, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No it's not. If you're 12 you've likely not started puberty. If you're 14, you're at best starting puberty. At 17 you're definitely into it and somewhat toward the end. Don't say 14 isn't developmentally the same from 17 as 12, it's obviously closer to 12, don't be an idiot.</div>Actually, quite to the contrary, at 12 you're likely into puberty and by 16 you're as developed as you'll ever get. The intelligence of 14 year olds is closer to that of seventeen year olds than twelve year olds. The height/weight of fourteen year olds is closer to that of 17 year olds than that of 12 year olds. By fourteen, a good portion of the population is finished growing and a good portion of the population is finished with all the chemistry changes their body will make during puberty. From all the comments you've made my only guess is that you matured late, and have made a blanket statement based on that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Jan 25 2007, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Actually, quite to the contrary, at 12 you're likely into puberty and by 16 you're as developed as you'll ever get. The intelligence of 14 year olds is closer to that of seventeen year olds than twelve year olds. The height/weight of fourteen year olds is closer to that of 17 year olds than that of 12 year olds. By fourteen, a good portion of the population is finished growing and a good portion of the population is finished with all the chemistry changes their body will make during puberty. From all the comments you've made my only guess is that you matured late, and have made a blanket statement based on that.</div>Not really. The only diff is that 14 year olds are in HS. What do you mean most of the population is finished growing. It's a SCIENTIFIC FACT that most people grow into their late teens. Most freshmen(14 yo) and sophs at my school still have annoying squeaky voices and certainly haven't hit puberty. The only difference is that now they're stupid potheads.
I agree with tHe_pEsTiLeNcE. Developmentally, you drastically change mentally and physically between the ages of 12 and 14. Most people aren't finished with their physical (and sexual) development by 14, but they are well into it. I wouldn't say the two stages are equal exactly, but they are fairly similar. In many cultures past and present, 13 is old enough to be considered an adult. The fact that Something-To-Say thinks that it's "wrong" is just based on social norms. Our culture is pretty bad about lumping all people into one particular group based on a certain characteristic. The fact is, a lot of 14 year olds are physically and psychologically ready. Plenty of them aren't, too.To say that it's a scientific fact that people grow into their teens is downright idiotic. Actually, it's even possible to go further than that. Your epiphysial plates in your bones usually fuse around 19-21 or whenever your bones stop growing (it's a poor explanation, but that's why they fuse in the first place: your bones stop growing). But this really has nothing to do with the topic, as there is very little physical development between 17-22 compared to 12-14 or 14-17.And yes, I recall Something-To-Say mentioning that he first jacked off at 16. I laughed.
Well you recall correctly. I have no reason to deny it. As this thread is all about, people develop differently. I take it that you're the type of person that would make fun of a MR person crying in a corner because their family was just brutally murdered and they don't know what's going on. I think you're the insecure one justice.
It's always the ones who can't get a chick in bed that has a problem with underage sex. I guarantee that if your girlfriend asked you to have sex, you would do it in a heartbeat.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Jan 26 2007, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's always the ones who can't get a chick in bed that has a problem with underage sex. I guarantee that if your girlfriend asked you to have sex, you would do it in a heartbeat.</div> No he wouldn't. He wouldn't even know what to do and he'd release the pimp juice before she even took her pants off.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Jan 26 2007, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's always the ones who can't get a chick in bed that has a problem with underage sex. I guarantee that if your girlfriend asked you to have sex, you would do it in a heartbeat.</div>I don't agree with underage sex, at least on a personal level -at least. I don't care if anyone else has sex - not my decision. - you know how I do, Tony!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Jan 26 2007, 01:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't agree with underage sex, at least on a personal level -at least. I don't care if anyone else has sex - not my decision. - you know how I do, Tony!</div>You don't need it, your a boss.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ginger Jesus @ Jan 25 2007, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well you recall correctly. I have no reason to deny it. As this thread is all about, people develop differently. I take it that you're the type of person that would make fun of a MR person crying in a corner because their family was just brutally murdered and they don't know what's going on. I think you're the insecure one justice.</div>ad hominemI'm not insecure, because I've had sex with a girl. What does mental retardation have to do with this topic at all again? Of course I would make fun of them, but that's not what this topic is about.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jan 26 2007, 01:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not insecure, because I've had sex with a girl. What does mental retardation have to do with this topic at all again? Of course I would make fun of them, but that's not what this topic is about.</div>Wow. That's pathetic. You just called everyone with morals and every homosexual, AND all females insecure. Nice move, smart one.
Personally I think it's ok as long as both people consent. I do think its F*cked up if there is an age difference of 3+ years but hey, if you love each other, why not have sex?I personally do not have a girlfriend right now and have never had sex before. I'm sure if the opportunity should arise I would not turn down.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ginger Jesus @ Jan 26 2007, 08:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow. That's pathetic. You just called everyone with morals and every homosexual, AND all females insecure. Nice move, smart one.</div>Well, actually I didn't. You did. I just said that I personally have nothing to be insecure about as far as sex goes. Girls can feel secure in their own rights and so can homosexuals. As for people with morals, I can only assume you're talking about yourself. I know for a fact that if an extremely hot chick offered to bone you, your "morals" would go right out the window. I call that somewhat insecure, yes.I like how you just said that homosexuals and all females don't have morals.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ginger Jesus @ Jan 25 2007, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well you recall correctly. I have no reason to deny it. As this thread is all about, people develop differently. I take it that you're the type of person that would make fun of a MR person crying in a corner because their family was just brutally murdered and they don't know what's going on. I think you're the insecure one justice.</div>and you're the type of person who would then pose a ban on MR people having families so that no more of them would cry
