Update On Jason Kidd.....

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Okay I'm to tired to keep going but what I merely saying is Sean Williams can be better than Bynum. Brandon Wrightcan come around and be better than Andrew.Anyone still can because Bynum is not the best. I do not understand why averging a double double when your 20 differs from when your 30 because both help out your team, no?</div></p>

    You don't understand why averaging a double double when your 20 differs from when you're 30? Maybe because the 20 year old still has more basketball to play, and can only improve? And for the record, nobody is saying Bynum is the best. All I've said is that he is a great player now and has a great future ahead of him. How do you know Sean Williams or Brandon Wright will be better than Bynum? They haven't provena single thing in the league yet. Please stop. You're arguments are ridiculous.</p>

    And btw, Bynum already has 8 points and 5 blocks in the first half against Chris Kaman, while also playing great defense.</p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As for Kidd aging, Kobe ages too. But from your point you are assuming Bynum will take over the Kobe role and dominant the league or you believe that Bynum will improve that much in a four year span to actually help the Lakers compete.</p>

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    When did I ever say Bynum will overtake Kobe? All I said was, Bynum has improved drastically every season, so there is no reason why another offseason of training won't help him improve anymore. The kid is already a solid starter in the league and is already averaging a double double. He is a hard worker and has a great attitude. KAJ, his coach, says that Bynum hasn't even tapped into his full potential. All signs lead to the fact that Bynum will most likely be a special player in a couple of years</p>
     
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    When Kobe was 20 he averaged around 10 PPG, and was considered to be a future star. Now he's a top 3 talent of all time. Bynum is devoted and WANTS to get better BECAUSE HE KNOWS HE HAS POTENTIAL.</p>

    Bynum is still a kid, and he's very mature at that, but will only continue to mature even more. He IS working under the best center of all time, who says himself that he thinks Bynum continues to improve everyday and can become a top tier center in this league. If you go to any GM in the league that's rebuilding and ask him would you prefer Bynum or Wright of Williams, they (w/ maybe the exception of Orlando) all will say Bynum. Don't get me wrong, I think Wright is going to be excellent, but as of right now, his future is nowhere near as bright as Bynum's.</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kidd)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Universe....you have yet to make a good point as to why Bynum is overrated. You are right, everyone has their opinions, but you can't just base your opinion on nothing. Thats like saying Lebron James sucks and leaving it at that. Makes no sense.</p>

    </div></p>

    Has already had a Slam page saying how great he will be. (Stupid I know, but annoys me reading about him)</p>

    Only hit 20 points once in his career.</p>

    Plays on a front court that is less than appealing and stat worthy.</p>

    Cannot be traded for a top 3 point guard of all time.</p>

    I know he can be a top three center in this league but he is nowhere near right now and saying because he is 21 years old is a stupid arguement in any case. I do see why Nets want him because what else are they going to give and who wouldn't want a 7 foot center but when he can barely start over Kwame Brown.</p>

    </div></p>

    Bynum is still growing as a basketball player, and even I have noticed an improvement in his game. He might live up to his potential, or he might not, but already he's showing more promise than he did 3 seasons ago.</p>

    Frontcourt that is less than appealing and stat worthy? You know the same thing can be said about Josh Boone and Sean Williams.</p>

    </p>

    Arguing about his age isn't stupid. Some players are NBA ready at 21, others aren't. Lebron is doing amazing things at such a young age, but that doesn't mean Bynum isn't possible of it in a few seasons. He's a project needs more time to develop.</p>

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    Kobe is a good example, like lakerman34 just mentioned.</p>

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    Thank you for the props Kidd.</p>

    Bynum MAY NOT live up to his potential, but all signs are saying that he has some maturing to do, and he wants to get better, which our other big Kwame Brown did not possess. Even when he was being knocked by Kobe, he could have taken that as insulting and lock himself up in a nutshell, but he used that as motivation. Kwame was knocked my MJ, and he got insulted and lost any work ethic he had, which caused him to become the player he is. Bynum knows a lot is expected of him, and he is working out like crazy, listening to KAJ, and taking Kobe's criticism like any star would.</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kidd)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kidd)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Universe....you have yet to make a good point as to why Bynum is overrated. You are right, everyone has their opinions, but you can't just base your opinion on nothing. Thats like saying Lebron James sucks and leaving it at that. Makes no sense.</p>

    </div></p>

    Has already had a Slam page saying how great he will be. (Stupid I know, but annoys me reading about him)</p>

    Only hit 20 points once in his career.</p>

    Plays on a front court that is less than appealing and stat worthy.</p>

    Cannot be traded for a top 3 point guard of all time.</p>

    I know he can be a top three center in this league but he is nowhere near right now and saying because he is 21 years old is a stupid arguement in any case. I do see why Nets want him because what else are they going to give and who wouldn't want a 7 foot center but when he can barely start over Kwame Brown.</p>

    </div></p>

    Bynum is still growing as a basketball player, and even I have noticed an improvement in his game. He might live up to his potential, or he might not, but already he's showing more promise than he did 3 seasons ago.</p>

    Frontcourt that is less than appealing and stat worthy? You know the same thing can be said about Josh Boone and Sean Williams.</p>

    </p>

    Arguing about his age isn't stupid. Some players are NBA ready at 21, others aren't. Lebron is doing amazing things at such a young age, but that doesn't mean Bynum isn't possible of it in a few seasons. He's a project needs more time to develop.</p>

    </p>

    Kobe is a good example, like lakerman34 just mentioned.</p>

    </p>

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    I never said that he wasn't improving, I have noticed it too. I never said he wasn't going to be a good center but many are saying he is going to be a great center. What kind of numbers do great centers put up? Now I wouldn't consider 20 and 12 a great center but I would consider it good and how far do you see till he averages that amount?</p>

    As for Sean and Josh. Nobody is saying they are the next great thing. They are compared to Theo Ratliff and others will Bynum is compared to Wilt. I know Sean isn't the future because he cannot even start over Collins but he also has potential to be a half decent player.</p>

    Theres been tons of NBA players who've come in with great numbers than never reached there potential. Shawn Bradley pops in my head first as he wasn't horrible but he was hyped up more than he ever produced.</p>

    As for Kobe, how many times do you see that? Of course there is a chance and most Laker fans hope for that but then there is also the chance he is just average.</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Okay I'm to tired to keep going but what I merely saying is Sean Williams can be better than Bynum. Brandon Wrightcan come around and be better than Andrew.Anyone still can because Bynum is not the best. I do not understand why averging a double double when your 20 differs from when your 30 because both help out your team, no?</div></p>

    You don't understand why averaging a double double when your 20 differs from when you're 30? Maybe because the 20 year old still has more basketball to play, and can only improve? And for the record, nobody is saying Bynum is the best. All I've said is that he is a great player now and has a great future ahead of him. How do you know Sean Williams or Brandon Wright will be better than Bynum? They haven't provena single thing in the league yet. Please stop. You're arguments are ridiculous.</p>

    And btw, Bynum already has 8 points and 5 blocks in the first half against Chris Kaman, while also playing great defense.</p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As for Kidd aging, Kobe ages too. But from your point you are assuming Bynum will take over the Kobe role and dominant the league or you believe that Bynum will improve that much in a four year span to actually help the Lakers compete.</p>

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    When did I ever say Bynum will overtake Kobe? All I said was, Bynum has improved drastically every season, so there is no reason why another offseason of training won't help him improve anymore. The kid is already a solid starter in the league and is already averaging a double double. He is a hard worker and has a great attitude. KAJ, his coach, says that Bynum hasn't even tapped into his full potential. All signs lead to the fact that Bynum will most likely be a special player in a couple of years</p>

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    Oh my. What happens if he dosen't improve. Then what is the difference? What has Bynum proved? He is an extremly talented shot blocker but he also gets lost very easily.</p>

    BTW, Paul Davis is shooting 5 - 6 and Kaman has 17.</p>

    I just assumed you meant when you said Bynum is the future, you meant franchise and right now the franchise player is Kobe Bryant. I agree with you the signslead in the positive direction but you just never know what may happen just like getting Kidd or not getting Kidd.</p>
     
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    [quote name='Universe']</p>

    [quote name='Kidd']</p>

    [quote name='Universe']</p>

    [quote name='Kidd']</p>

    Universe....you have yet to make a good point as to why Bynum is overrated. You are right, everyone has their opinions, but you can't just base your opinion on nothing. Thats like saying Lebron James sucks and leaving it at that. Makes no sense.</p>

    [/QUOTE]</p>

    Has already had a Slam page saying how great he will be. (Stupid I know, but annoys me reading about him)</p>

    Only hit 20 points once in his career.</p>

    Plays on a front court that is less than appealing and stat worthy.</p>

    Cannot be traded for a top 3 point guard of all time.</p>

    I know he can be a top three center in this league but he is nowhere near right now and saying because he is 21 years old is a stupid arguement in any case. I do see why Nets want him because what else are they going to give and who wouldn't want a 7 foot center but when he can barely start over Kwame Brown.</p>

    [/QUOTE]</p>

    Bynum is still growing as a basketball player, and even I have noticed an improvement in his game. He might live up to his potential, or he might not, but already he's showing more promise than he did 3 seasons ago.</p>

    Frontcourt that is less than appealing and stat worthy? You know the same thing can be said about Josh Boone and Sean Williams.</p>

    </p>

    Arguing about his age isn't stupid. Some players are NBA ready at 21, others aren't. Lebron is doing amazing things at such a young age, but that doesn't mean Bynum isn't possible of it in a few seasons. He's a project needs more time to develop.</p>

    </p>

    Kobe is a good example, like lakerman34 just mentioned.</p>

    </p>

    [/QUOTE]</p>

    I never said that he wasn't improving, I have noticed it too. I never said he wasn't going to be a good center but many are saying he is going to be a great center. What kind of numbers do great centers put up? Now I wouldn't consider 20 and 12 a great center but I would consider it good and how far do you see till he averages that amount?</p>

    As for Sean and Josh. Nobody is saying they are the next great thing. They are compared to Theo Ratliff and others will Bynum is compared to Wilt. I know Sean isn't the future because he cannot even start over Collins but he also has potential to be a half decent player.</p>

    Theres been tons of NBA players who've come in with great numbers than never reached there potential. Shawn Bradley pops in my head first as he wasn't horrible but he was hyped up more than he ever produced.</p>

    As for Kobe, how many times do you see that? Of course there is a chance and most Laker fans hope for that but then there is also the chance he is just average.</p>

    [/QUOTE]</p>

    Dude, what's a great center to you? One who averages 30 and 30?</p>

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    [quote name='lakerman34']</p>

    [quote name='Universe']</p>

    [quote name='Kidd']</p>

    [quote name='Universe']</p>

    [quote name='Kidd']</p>

    Universe....you have yet to make a good point as to why Bynum is overrated. You are right, everyone has their opinions, but you can't just base your opinion on nothing. Thats like saying Lebron James sucks and leaving it at that. Makes no sense.</p>

    [/QUOTE]</p>

    Has already had a Slam page saying how great he will be. (Stupid I know, but annoys me reading about him)</p>

    Only hit 20 points once in his career.</p>

    Plays on a front court that is less than appealing and stat worthy.</p>

    Cannot be traded for a top 3 point guard of all time.</p>

    I know he can be a top three center in this league but he is nowhere near right now and saying because he is 21 years old is a stupid arguement in any case. I do see why Nets want him because what else are they going to give and who wouldn't want a 7 foot center but when he can barely start over Kwame Brown.</p>

    [/QUOTE]</p>

    Bynum is still growing as a basketball player, and even I have noticed an improvement in his game. He might live up to his potential, or he might not, but already he's showing more promise than he did 3 seasons ago.</p>

    Frontcourt that is less than appealing and stat worthy? You know the same thing can be said about Josh Boone and Sean Williams.</p>

    </p>

    Arguing about his age isn't stupid. Some players are NBA ready at 21, others aren't. Lebron is doing amazing things at such a young age, but that doesn't mean Bynum isn't possible of it in a few seasons. He's a project needs more time to develop.</p>

    </p>

    Kobe is a good example, like lakerman34 just mentioned.</p>

    </p>

    [/QUOTE]</p>

    I never said that he wasn't improving, I have noticed it too. I never said he wasn't going to be a good center but many are saying he is going to be a great center. What kind of numbers do great centers put up? Now I wouldn't consider 20 and 12 a great center but I would consider it good and how far do you see till he averages that amount?</p>

    As for Sean and Josh. Nobody is saying they are the next great thing. They are compared to Theo Ratliff and others will Bynum is compared to Wilt. I know Sean isn't the future because he cannot even start over Collins but he also has potential to be a half decent player.</p>

    Theres been tons of NBA players who've come in with great numbers than never reached there potential. Shawn Bradley pops in my head first as he wasn't horrible but he was hyped up more than he ever produced.</p>

    As for Kobe, how many times do you see that? Of course there is a chance and most Laker fans hope for that but then there is also the chance he is just average.</p>

    [/QUOTE]</p>

    Dude, what's a great center to you? One who averages 30 and 30?</p>

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    [/QUOTE]</p>

    Shaq - 30 and 14</p>

    Walton - 18 and 14</p>

    Ewing - 29 and 12</p>

    Mikan - 28 and 14</p>

    Russell - 19 and 24</p>

    The list can go on and on..</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'>Oh my. What happens if he dosen't improve. Then what is the difference? What has Bynum proved? He is an extremly talented shot blocker but he also gets lost very easily.</div></p>

    How many Laker games have you actually watched? What has he proved? That he can play with the best of them by averaging a double double at the ripe age of 20. What more do you want from him? When the guy first came into the league he was getting abused left and right. And look at him now. He has improved by leaps and bounds.</p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>BTW, Paul Davis is shooting 5 - 6 and Kaman has 17.</div></p>

    What did Paul Davis do when Bynum was guarding him? What did Kaman do when Bynum was guarding him? Kaman was 1-7 at one point when Bynum was on him. The reason why they scored was because Chris Mihm can't play defense to save his life, smart one. Before you come up with arguments, at least make sure you know what you are talking about.</p>

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'>Oh my. What happens if he dosen't improve. Then what is the difference? What has Bynum proved? He is an extremly talented shot blocker but he also gets lost very easily.</div></p>

    How many Laker games have you actually watched? What has he proved? That he can play with the best of them by averaging a double double at the ripe age of 20. What more do you want from him? When the guy first came into the league he was getting abused left and right. And look at him now. He has improved by leaps and bounds.</p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>BTW, Paul Davis is shooting 5 - 6 and Kaman has 17.</div></p>

    What did Paul Davis do when Bynum was guarding him? What did Kaman do when Bynum was guarding him? Kaman was 1-7 at one point when Bynum was on him. The reason why they scored was because Chris Mihm can't play defense to save his life, smart one. Before you come up with arguments, at least make sure you know what you are talking about.</p>

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    My bad I'll catch every Laker game from now on to see the future. I find it funny how many times you've said twenty and double double in this thread. It dosen't change the fact that he's averging 11 points and 10 rebounds.</p>

    Oh btw, what happened to Bynum against Boston? Or agianst Mattew Bonner? Not good games then.</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'>My bad I'll catch every Laker game from now on to see the future. I find it funny how many times you've said twenty and double double in this thread. It dosen't change the fact that he's averging 11 points and 10 rebounds.</div></p>

    Yes it doesn't. He's averaging 11 points and 10 rebounds with 2 blocked shots in 26 minutes? Your point is?</p>

    I find it funny how you keep arguing with me even though your getting absolutely nowhere. I also find it funny how you said you'd be a good player in the NBA if you were 7 foot tall and had had KAJ as your coach. I also find it funny how you said Bynum could have already reached his "peak." LMAO please stop</p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Oh btw, what happened to Bynum against Boston? Or agianst Mattew Bonner? Not good games then.</div></p>

    Oh, so I guess a couple of bad games overrides his production for the entire season, does it? Fact of thematter is, Bynum is arguably our second best player on the team, and has looked like a second option in most games. And yes, him averaging a double double does mean something retard. How many players in the NBA are averaging a double double?</p>

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'>My bad I'll catch every Laker game from now on to see the future. I find it funny how many times you've said twenty and double double in this thread. It dosen't change the fact that he's averging 11 points and 10 rebounds.</div></p>

    Yes it doesn't. He's averaging 11 points and 10 rebounds with 2 blocked shots in 26 minutes? Your point is?</p>

    I find it funny how you keep arguing with me even though your getting absolutely nowhere. I also find it funny how you said you'd be a good player in the NBA if you were 7 foot tall and had had KAJ as your coach. I also find it funny how you said Bynum could have already reached his "peak." LMAO please stop</p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Oh btw, what happened to Bynum against Boston? Or agianst Mattew Bonner? Not good games then.</div></p>

    Oh, so I guess a couple of bad games overrides his production for the entire season, does it? Fact of thematter is, Bynum is arguably our second best player on the team, and has looked like a second option in most games. And yes, him averaging a double double does mean something retard. How many players in the NBA are averaging a double double?</p>

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    Sad that you had to go to name calling. Let me guess, 13 year old Laker fan? If not then that is truely sad that you cannot have a simple arguement without name calling.</p>

    I guess I'll stop responding to your posts since you have your panties in a bunch but answer this:</p>

    Andris Biedrins or Andrew Bynum?</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Sad that you had to go to name calling. Let me guess, 13 year old Laker fan? If not then that is truely sad that you cannot have a simple arguement without name calling.</div></p>

    A simple argument without name calling? I'm sorry, but it's kind of hard not to when I read your reasons. Re-read your posts. They are ridiculous.</p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I guess I'll stop responding to your posts since you have your panties in a bunch but answer this:</p>

    Andris Biedrins or Andrew Bynum?</p>

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    You'll stop responding since you can't come up with any reasonable arguements.</p>

    And I'd chooseAndrew Bynum, your point is?</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Sad that you had to go to name calling. Let me guess, 13 year old Laker fan? If not then that is truely sad that you cannot have a simple arguement without name calling.</div></p>

    A simple argument without name calling? I'm sorry, but it's kind of hard not to when I read your reasons. Re-read your posts. They are ridiculous.</p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I guess I'll stop responding to your posts since you have your panties in a bunch but answer this:</p>

    Andris Biedrins or Andrew Bynum?</p>

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    You'll stop responding since you can't come up with any reasonable arguements.</p>

    And I'd chooseAndrew Bynum, your point is?</p>

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    Fine I reread yours and you are a bias retard. Happy?</p>

    My point is Andris is 21 and averages a double double so he is better.</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Fine I reread yours and you are a bias retard. Happy?</p>

    My point is Andris is 21 and averages a double double so he is better.</p>

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    I'm bias? LMAO. So you can't come up with good arguments and you call me bias? Even your own Nets fan, Kidd, says that you aren't saying anything to back up your points. And for the record, Andrew Bynum outplayed Biendrins in both the two meetings between the two teams. And if you ask around the league, who is valued more between the two, everyone would say Bynum</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Fine I reread yours and you are a bias retard. Happy?</p>

    My point is Andris is 21 and averages a double double so he is better.</p>

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    I'm bias? LMAO. So you can't come up with good arguments and you call me bias? Even your own Nets fan, Kidd, says that you aren't saying anything to back up your points. And for the record, Andrew Bynum outplayed Biendrins in both the two meetings between the two teams. And if you ask around the league, who is valued more between the two, everyone would say Bynum</p>

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    Hey, I reread it and that's what I come too and I already had my arguement and your arguement was 20 and double double. I know many people who share the same opinions as me as you have your own too.</p>

    You base Bynum verse Andris on two games well then Perkins sure didn't drop 20 on Andris when they met. LMAOZ!</p>
     
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    Hey, I reread it and that's what I come too and I already had my arguement and your arguement was 20 and double double. I know many people who share the same opinions as me as you have your own too.</div></p>

    Can you explain more clearly because I'm having an awful hard time reading your posts. I know we all have opinions, and I don't mind your opinion, I'm just having a hard time taking your posts seriously because of your reasons.</p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You base Bynum verse Andris on two games well then Perkins sure didn't drop 20 on Andris when they met. LMAOZ!</p>

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    And Tony Delk once scored 50. Your point is? You don't make any sense. Andrew Bynum had 20 points, 11 boards, and 5 blocks the first time the two met, and 17 and 16 the second time the two met</p>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

    Hey, I reread it and that's what I come too and I already had my arguement and your arguement was 20 and double double. I know many people who share the same opinions as me as you have your own too.</div></p>

    Can you explain more clearly because I'm having an awful hard time reading your posts. I know we all have opinions, and I don't mind your opinion, I'm just having a hard time taking your posts seriously because of your reasons.</p>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You base Bynum verse Andris on two games well then Perkins sure didn't drop 20 on Andris when they met. LMAOZ!</p>

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    And Tony Delk once scored 50. Your point is? You don't make any sense. Andrew Bynum had 20 points, 11 boards, and 5 blocks the first time the two met, and 17 and 16 the second time the two met</p>

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    My arguement is that you guys cannot fully know he will be great. I agree with not trading him for Kidd but in no way is that mean that Bynum will become anything. Of course he has the double double and the 2 block shot but things change. Like you said Tony Delk had a 50 point game and he was upcomming in the league too but he never reached what many thought he could reach.</p>

    Nothing taking from Bynum because he will average 20 and 10 imo, he just will never be that dominate center that you guys are looking for.</p>

    Just my thoughts, sorry that we got off bad cause I'm just tired and I'm sure most of my points don't make sense and you seem intelligent. I just wanted to keep a discusion going since I'm snowed in and have my 2k8 going and nothing better to do.</p>

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    My arguement is that you guys cannot fully know he will be great. I agree with not trading him for Kidd but in no way is that mean that Bynum will become anything. Of course he has the double double and the 2 block shot but things change. Like you said Tony Delk had a 50 point game and he was upcomming in the league too but he never reached what many thought he could reach.</p>

    Nothing taking from Bynum because he will average 20 and 10 imo, he just will never be that dominate center that you guys are looking for.</p>

    Just my thoughts, sorry that we got off bad cause I'm just tired and I'm sure most of my points don't make sense and you seem intelligent. I just wanted to keep a discusion going since I'm snowed in and have my 2k8 going and nothing better to do.</p>

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    Well I pretty much agree with you now that you break it down. I'm sorry for being so harsh in some of my posts, but I just didn't really get what you were trying to tell me. lol. It's cool though</p>

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

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    My arguement is that you guys cannot fully know he will be great. I agree with not trading him for Kidd but in no way is that mean that Bynum will become anything. Of course he has the double double and the 2 block shot but things change. Like you said Tony Delk had a 50 point game and he was upcomming in the league too but he never reached what many thought he could reach.</p>

    Nothing taking from Bynum because he will average 20 and 10 imo, he just will never be that dominate center that you guys are looking for.</p>

    Just my thoughts, sorry that we got off bad cause I'm just tired and I'm sure most of my points don't make sense and you seem intelligent. I just wanted to keep a discusion going since I'm snowed in and have my 2k8 going and nothing better to do.</p>

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    Well I pretty much agree with you now that you break it down. I'm sorry for being so harsh in some of my posts, but I just didn't really get what you were trying to tell me. lol. It's cool though</p>

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    It's because I speak Canadian haha.</p>
     

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