US government sues Arizona over anti-immigration law

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  1. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    I believe in Oregon you are required to carry ID at all times, technically speaking, regardless of your nationality.
     
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    No I don't.

    Nowhere in the law is any "incentive" mentioned.

    No pay raise for meeting an arrest quota.

    No Comp time provided for idle harassment of dark-skinned people.

    No Gold Star on your service record.

    I guess what you're saying is Arizona police are all racist Klan members?
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    This lawyer says otherwise.

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    Bicyclists are pedestrians? I don't think so.

    Pedalstrians maybe.
     
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  5. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I'm saying if they're told to go out and send the "illegals" back home, they'll do what it takes. And the only way to do it is racial profiling and all the negative baggage that goes along with it.
     
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    Two things. First, the Arizona law doesn't give them any additional power to do that than they had before. Second, they could undertake that mission with no new law in place.

    So it seems your concern about this law doesn't have much to do with this law whatsoever.
     
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  7. Denny Crane

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    My concern is Liberty, being a Libertarian.

    If the law doesn't give them any additional power, what's the point in passing it? It's a wink and a nod to do things that aren't fitting with the constitution.

    As I pointed out several times already, you can't pass a bill of attainder and you can't deprive persons of the same civil rights anyone else is fully entitled to.
     
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    Right. Just like they are told to ticket drivers going over the speed limit. Everybody going over the speed limit is pulled over and ticketed right?

    Or is it usually the ones that are blatantly going too fast and being dangerous?
     
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    You get to an interesting point - promulgation. maxiep seems to think the laws MUST be enforced, which isn't true. Only the ones that are promulgated must be.

    Anyhow, there's two motorcycle cops parked on the sidewalk across from where I work, in the mornings. They stand there with a radar gun and pull people over, two cars at a time, for going > 40 in the 35 zone there.

    My assumption is the police chief told them to go out and hand out tickets.
     
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    Yes, some police officers are assigned quotas.
     
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    Speeding isn't illegal immigration.
     
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    It is if you do it across the border without the proper paperwork.

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  13. Denny Crane

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    36 MPH in a 35 MPH zone gets you pulled over if you have brown skin.
     
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    Sure, Denny. Every single cop in the country is a racist.
     
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    It doesn't take many to make life miserable for people.

    And surely there never has been racial profiling by the cops anywhere, ever.
     
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    Gee, then I guess with all these racist cops we should just abolish all laws.
     
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    Racial profiling is quite prevalent, so maybe we should just abolish racial profiling and laws that encourage it.
     
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    Racial profiling is strictly prohibited in this law. Nice try, though.
     
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    Profiling and discrimination based on race, gender, sexual orientation, gender identification, and age are prohibited by several laws across the world - that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, though.
     
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    And it doesn't mean that any law where racial profiling could take place should be stricken.
     
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