US government sues Arizona over anti-immigration law

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  1. Denny Crane

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    It's not a legal requirement to carry identification while walking around. It's a good idea in case you get hit by a care or something, but not a requirement.
     
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    Face the facts, man. A corrupt / racist cop can do what you describe whether this law is in place or not.
     
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    20 B. FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY
    21 OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS
    22 STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS
    23 UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE,
    24 WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON. THE
    25 PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
    26 PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c).

    What is "reasonable suspicion that the PERSON is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States" ?

    Would you reasonably expect most white people to be unlawfully present? You think the cops are going to hassle such white people?

    This is a slam dunk.
     
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    Is it an impediment to be taken to your home to get it? Again, in open and free countries like Sweden, it's a requirement for foreigners to not only carry identification, but their passport. That passport can be requested at any time. And yet asking for identification of someone who is believed to have committed a crime somehow unjust?
     
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    Except for this...

    And then it's reinforced, not once, but twice.

    and

     
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    The police aren't robots. They're going to have suspicion first, then find a reason to pull people with brown skin over, then hassle them for papers. Just like in all sorts of nasty countries none of us would want to live in.
     
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    Yep. All police are racists. Well done, Denny. Well done.
     
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    Denny Crane, Jul 23, 2010
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    Is it shocking that govt. fails to do its job?

    LOL
     
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    It's shocking when they intentionally turn their back.
     
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    Being unable to produce ID such as a driver's license when stopped for speeding in a car, producing forged ID, giving a false name and address, being unable to speak at least rudimentary English, not knowing who the Father of our country is, working jobs under the table for shit wages...
     
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    Like you expect them to do with health care when they ration it?
     
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    A lot of citizens don't know shit about the country, like who the "Father" of our country is.
     
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    I will try to find the article where it was comparing the AZ law to the Mexico law. It stated that the law in Mexico was stricter and made it a legal requirement to carry ID at all times. It also said that Mexico has recently rewritten their laws so they stop treating their illegals out their southern border inhumanely. It also clearly stated that they had not revised the ID clause of their law at this time. It is very hypocritical that Mexico is sueing the state of AZ when they have harsher laws on their books then we do. Of course Obama didn't mention that little fact when he was kissing the Mexican leaders ass and insulting the governor of Arizona.
     
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    We're not Mexico. It's supposed to be a "free country" here, right?
     
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    It is free within its laws. It is not a free ride.
     
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    About 18 million to be precise, every single one of them an illegal alien.
     
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    By ration it you of course mean withhold it from the millions of illegal aliens we waste it on, right?
     
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    If you had spent any time in AZ you'd know there is very little racism there. Hispanics in particular are a welcome part of the culture and community. Racism tends to exist mainly in areas with unbalanced racial dispersion, like Lake Oswego or Watts.

    Arizonans have no serious problems with each other, whether they are Hispanic, Caucasian or of another race. Their problem is with the millions of illegals sapping their economic base and selling drugs to their children.
     
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