US government sues Arizona over anti-immigration law

Who says anyone should get a free ride?

If your gripe is they come here and work, even for sub minimum wage, at least they come here to work.

 

I think a free country would have free borders.

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

 

Did people have to wait at Ellis Island to get registered?

 

What is the proper procedure?

The answer is, your US employer has to submit the paperwork on your behalf. What the government wants (I guess) is for employers to go down to Mexico and recruit workers there, go home and fill out the paperwork for each employee, and then when the paperwork is approved, the employee can enter the US.

That, of course, is highly unrealistic for many employers, and impossible for most employees simply because the employers don't follow the law. To find work, they have to cross the border illegally. They can't just "fill out the proper paperwork". There isn't any paperwork for them to fill out.

barfo

 

I think they just stood in line and signed their name on a register. People were basically turned away if they were sick (carried some disease).

I'd be plenty happy if we did that at the Mexico (and Canada) border.

 

would anyone be up in arms if Congress passed an "Ellis Island Law"? One that said you have to stop at a border crossing, take a picture, fingerprints/DNA and get an ID card?

 

Obviously. No matter what Congress does, someone is up in arms about it.

It wouldn't be me, though. What you propose sounds pretty reasonable.

barfo

 

barfo's almost always wrong. Here's an example of when he's actually right.

Yes, it's reasonable to have open borders but have those who wish to come here pass through checkpoints. It's even reasonable to turn people away if they're carrying a disease.

 

Sure they are. Aren't non-citizens allowed to own property here? Because it's a free country.

And thank goodness for the judge who values peoples' Liberty.

 

If a French citizen (not US citizen) buys a house here and it burns down or is burglarized, the police and fire departments will show up and do their jobs as if the owner were a citizen.

If you murder that French citizen, you might get The Chair or gas chamber. If he murders you, same goes for him. Under the exact same set of OUR laws.

 

if he murders you, he flies back to France and they don't extradite him.

 

Or BB could murder you and flee to France and not be extradited, as well. (Perish the thought, it's a hypothetical).

There'd be a warrant out for the murderer here, in either case.

As for Social Security, why shouldn't non-citizens pay into it and receive benefits if they live here?