Germany has a universal multi-payer health care system paid for by a combination of statutory health insurance. That's universal healthcare. Obamacare isn't universal. So no, these aren't close. The M4A that Bernie Sanders was talking about would have been the best healthcare in the world, and would have covered every single American. And it would have been no more expensive than our current system. But nobody claimed that's what the rest of the world has.
I'm not going to try to comment on a healthcare system in a country in which I do not live. But it seemed like the German guy wasn't saying that Germany's system wasn't universal, but simply that it was more like Obamacare than like M4A.
And the other side of the coin is that if it's multi-payer, it's not like M4A. So it's not "like" either, but also shares characteristics with both. Thus, someone comparing the two could opine as to which system shares more similarities with the German system. And the person who lives in Germany and experiences the German system says that that system is more like Obamacare than M4A. I don't think your point very effectively contradicts his.
But the top comment for that thread, from what I can tell, was talking about universal health care. There was an edit later that seems to be including single payer with universal. But the original comment was about universal healthcare. As long as single payer is universal I'm including it as universal. There are many kinds of universal healthcare. Almost all of them rate higher than what the US has. And all of them are a lot less expensive.
In my case my GP has added a $250 annual surcharge if you are over 65 to cover the cost of taking care of Medicare only patients. I think it's bullshit since I'm not on Medicare, but I also don't want to find a new GP.
It's not because of the hassle. It's because they don't pay as much. Because of course they don't. The prices you have to charge insurance companies are quadruple or more what you would normally have to charge, just to wind up breaking even. Medicare for all would have to solve that. It wouldn't have a choice. Those hassles go away because there is a set price.
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Those same doctors likely also don't take uninsured patients, or patients whose insurance doesn't cover the procedure they require. The people who would benefit from an M4A system would be unimpacted by doctors like those who seek only to serve wealthy clients.
agree, but it would need to be managed properly with regional consideration. Im a believer in efficiency by reducing the number of steps in a process without giving up productivity, out of control cost. Economic value added approach with incentives in meeting objectives.
