US helicopter raid on Syria kills eight

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  1. hasoos

    hasoos Well-Known Member

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    You folks up above are just silly with your extreme views.

    I just seems to me when you look at the series of events, and the outrage it raises in the middle east, all of that for 8 foreign fighters? Those 8 foreign fighters had better been hell of important, because it seems like an awful lot of effort, and an awful lot of diplomatic heat will have to be dealt with for 8 foreign fighters.
     
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    Because 7+ years have passed and our troops and their commanders have said repeatedly that Bush/Cheney have tied their hands, withdrawn forces, re-directed them each time they got close.

    How pathetic and impotent do you think our armed forces and intelligence network are? Do you really think Bin Laden is all that? A dude in a cave? Get real.

    Glad you're amused that Bush/Cheney continue to guarantee the safety of a mass-murderer of Americans including some friends of yours. With friends like you...
     
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    "awful lot of diplomatic heat will have to be dealt with "

    Mission accomplished.
     
  4. DaRizzle

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    My dad is in Syria right now visiting my uncle who drove there from Iraq...I got an email from him this morning 415am pacific time, that he is going to Damascus...he better not get killed :(
     
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    War sucks.
     
  6. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Do you stop and help put out a house fire when you see one? I bet it's because you're not a fireman. Some people aren't soldiers either.
     
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    So does letting people get away with attacking you.

    As someone who I hope has some shred of cred when it comes to military stuff in here, please believe me when I say that you can't trust the stuff that Al-Jazeera etc. puts over the airwaves. I'm briefed on intel of operations generally similar to this one.

    One example from last year. We (the US, not me and my poker buddies) attacked a "stronghold" of Al-Qaeda fighters that were, let's just say, "multi-national in nature". We had 14 confirmed dead, and photos of the 14 to add/corraborate them in the intel databases. Al-Jazeera also reported 14 dead. They said it was 6 women and 8 children in a botched attempt of a raid.

    It's amazing to me that people think people in uniform get their rocks off by killing babies and farmers. These are men and women from your towns, educated in your schools, played on your little league teams, etc. Is it too much to ask you to have more faith in them than in Al-Jazeera?

    If you have a chance, watch "V for Vendetta" sometime. The "News Service" is a lot like what goes on behind "the CNN of the Middle East".
     
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    CNN is partners with Al Jazeera and is Obama's mouthpiece. Hrm.....
     
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    I would go back in the Army in a heart beat if I wasn't so old and they would take me. The day 911 happened I would have gone back in the Army if I could have.
     
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    Great point. Props to you.
     
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    FOXNews.com

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  13. TradeNurkicNow

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    Don't worry, Damascus is a safe place. He'll be fine. What you should be worried about is the Blazers destroying the Lakers tomorrow night.

    Okay, on to the issue.

    It's interesting to me that the military can basically kill civilians in any Middle Eastern country, and the right wing will find a way to justify it to themselves. Maxiep pointed out that you shouldn't be hasty to accept the Syrian's version of events. While there is truth to that, it doesn't excuse what happened. And really, if it was ANY OTHER COUNTRY in the Middle East that this happened to, would that line would have been any different? We're just not going to trust any body else's word except our own (and Israel's) about what goes on in that part of the world.

    The Syrians love us, but they won't for long if we cross their borders again. We need the countries surrounding Iraq to be on our side in the worst way, and this kind of shit is not going to help.

    And there is a difference between going into Pakistan to get Osama and going into Syria to chase down a member of al-Qaida in Iraq. al-Qaida in Iraq is not (and never was) a faction of elite terrorists. These are people that have been recently recruited, extreme opportunists, and more easily dealt with than crossing borders illegally and blowing civilians up to kill them.
     
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    It was written in response to Reagan's curtailing of civil liberties. Something tells me Alan Moore wasn't thinking of al-Jazeera, but more of the West's media system, when he wrote the comic.
     
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    We're talking about Syria.

    What you just said is tantamount to someone bombing America because they're mad at Canada.
     
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    Of course we're talking about Syria but there are terrorist agents who are entering Iraq from Syria.
     
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    ^Well shit then! Lets start bombing Mexico!!! :rolleyes:
     
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    They didn't bomb Syria, calm down Rizzle, they bombed a terrorist cell, and as for the "innocent" people being caught up in it, what the F are they doing with the terrorists? Same thing has happened in Iraq and Afghanistan, the terrorists find hiding spots in different villages and when shit hits the fan, they play the innocent card and hide behind little children. They're "true" warriors alright.
     
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    Uh...yes they did. So if Canada (if they had the capabilities)chased a group of people that had done their country harm into Iowa and bombed them while they hid in a cornfield then its ok? Oh dont worry America, we bombed only bad people in a desolate area.
     
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    The official line from the US is that they were successful in killing 8 people, including a person they "suspect" may have "terrorist" ties.

    Can't get much weaker than that.
     

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