USC @ Ducks - GAME THREAD

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  1. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

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    6'1" isn't really a "big" WR.
     
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    yeah I didnt get that either. How about change it to "Elite level WR's" your WR stable is very impressive! Woods, Lee, Farmer... I thank God you didnt get DAT to go with that.

    Whats the Deal with Farmer by the way? I just looked him up and he has 3 catches this year? Is he just buried on the depth chart or has he not looked that good as a FR?
     
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    I'm *almost* there. Overall, the Duck D has been a neutral factor this season (eg they helped win the Stanford game before getting embarassed by USC). Let's see how these next 3 games play out. If the Ducks get crushed in the Rose Bowl (or worse yet, don't even get there) - then it is time to make big changes.
     
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    I don't buy this. The defense played quite well against UW and Stanford and, because they had one bad game, it's time for big changes? I don't buy it.

    The defense even played pretty well against Auburn and LSU, IMO--LSU got lots of their points off of turnovers deep in Ducks territory.

    Do we want better players on defense? Big, physical guys who are extremely skilled? Of course.

    Do we need to dump our coaches to do this? Heck, no!

    Ed O.
     
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    6'1 with great speed and skill will win the battle against 5'9.... There is no way anyone can watch the USC game and not see a glaring hole in the secondary with size. USC ran a passing clinic out there! How many first downs did they convert? Not to mention that their O line pushed our defensive line all over the place. As for Alioto, he has a major say in who gets recruited to "HIS" defense and he's picking undersized guys at positions that really matter. His finesse style of defense doesn't work against the top five teams in the nation. Oregon is now in a place where those are the teams we can and should be beating. We only have one player on our whole team recruited past Texas and that's Dungy's kid. We need to expand our recruiting and get that size and speed, that is in abundance in Florida and most of the south. Why should LSU, Bama and Texas get all the talent? We are national players now too!!

    As for UW and Stanford.... does anyone here really think those two teams could hang with Bama or LSU for a half let alone a whole game? Well in order for the national trophy to come to Autzen we need to be able to, and not with miracle comebacks!

    Alioto has been at Oregon how many years? How many national championships? How about bowl wins in the last 3 years since Chip took over? We ALL know it's not the offense!!

    The stars were all aligned in Autzen for Oregon to go to #2 in the BCS with OSU and the Sooners both losing... Our defense got worked! Sorry I want the best for the Ducks and I see our defense as the weak link... 3 huge bowl games in a row with losses makes a statement, to voters, recruits and the nation. We need to improve!
     
  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    He has been battling injuries, or at least that's what they said on the broadcast.
     
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    thanks
     
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    Great skill and speed will win out against inferior skill and speed, of course. To say it is simply big WRs versus size of Ducks CBs is false, though. 5'10, 5'11 and 6'0 CBs is pretty standard in college and pros, I would say.

    Robey on USC is smaller than all of the Ducks' CBs.

    As for LSU, they start a corner who goes 5'9 175. he must suck too, huh.



    Farmer, like Nate said, little injuries, trying out at RB as wella s WR, just to look to get him more touches. Can' wait for next season, though, with him, Woods and Lee all returning. Might be enough to convince barkley to come back.
     
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    Shaq Thompson who still has Oregon a top of his list is the perfect size 6'2 /210 corner ..... that's who we need....

    As for LSU's corner that is 5'9... yes he's undersized too and tall fast recievers will give him fits.

    You saw the USC game, how is this hard to figure out?

    We can improve, why are ya fighting what you can clearly see?
     
  10. MrSelfDestruct

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    Unfortunately, Oregon is out apparently for Shaq. Read this on twitter yesterday:

    "Inna Lazarev
    Oregon Ducks out for No. 1 safety Shaq Thompson. Says Eugene is too small for him. New favorites are as follows: 1. Cal 2. Washington 3. ASU
    20 Nov via web"

    It's about half-way down the page but I saw it retweeted by Rob Moseley (@duckfootball)

    http://twitter.com/#!/InnaLazarev
     
  11. Natebishop3

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    That's too bad.
     
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    The Ducks have had lousy corners since after the Harrington days. The best tandem was the Rashad Bauman and Steve Smith days. Since then its been blah. Safeties on the other hand. A long line of great safeties going back to Chad Cota.

    Recruiting needs is size on the line and better corners.
     
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    This tandem was pretty decent.

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    also I'm pretty high on our corners actually. They just need some seasoning.
     
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    I guess you're right about Thurmond and Byrd. Both those guys had good size.

    The young corner I'm big on is Ekpre-Olomu. I've seen him be a lockdown defender a few times as just a true frosh.

    Pac-12 is a conference that you need solid corners. Many good quarterbacks in this league year after year.
     
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    I LOVE Ifo. That dude does not get manhandled very easy. He can hold his own with physical WR's in flashes.
     
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    also Thurmond was 166lbs in high school according to Rivals.
     
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    I'm talking 6'0" bodies.

    Ideal corner IMO is 5'11" to 6'0" range.
     
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    gotcha
     
  20. Natebishop3

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    Dudes that size seem to play WR.
     

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