US's credit rating downgraded. First time in History.

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  1. BLAZER PROPHET

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    What this means is that the country will have to pay more to borrow money is the first thing that comes to mind. However, since European bonds have become more expensive, this may have no real short term effect.

    As for Pelosi blaming it all on the GOP, this warning has been coming from both Moody's (which maintained the AAA rating) and S&P for many months.

    With all due respect to either side, this downturn in rating belongs squarely on the shoulders of Obama/Pelosi/Reid.
     
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    Simple questions not to be answered with a question.

    We've raised the debt ceiling how many times? Who held up raising it with a clean bill (like it's always been done before) this time? Hint hint... it's the same party who Americans have overwhelmingly been blaming in the polls for this

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    The blame push polls must not be going well for Barry and his crew. Now they are trying to discredit S&P. This is amateur hour.





    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.7e885139e8a1bc75f092f9aeb91cef25.b1&show_article=1
     
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    You keep reading your polls. Meanwhile, your hero Obama is failing and wilting, right in front of our eyes.
     
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    Whoopity Doo. Meanwhile, millions of your fellow citizens can't even afford their mortgage, and you're talking about polls on a day where polls don't matter.

    As I said. Get out of SF more. Your brain is still rotted.
     
  6. BLAZER PROPHET

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    I do understand what your hinting at, but Obama was swept into office with a cloture proof Senate and a super majority in the House- nearly unprecedented and Obama/Reid/Pelosi had carte blanche authority to do whatever they wished. Their direct policies more than doubled the national debt (and the vast majority of that money was ill spent for unions...) and created what will become the largest money sucking entitlement program in our nation. Those are the primary reasons we have lost our credit rating. Moody's and S&P warned them this might happen and now it has. For Pelosi to even hint at blaming the GOP makes it clear she may not be of sound mind.
     
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    This is as political as I've ever seen S&P get in a statement.

    As BlazerProphet posted, Moody's and S&P have been warning us for months that spending and the deficit is the problem with our long-term outlook. I realize that Team Obama is going to try and spin this, and we've seen evidence of this from STOMP, but this downgrade is primarily the fault of Barack Obama, and that's why they're challenging it.
     
  8. EL PRESIDENTE

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    if you can't blame obama for this, you're not going to blame him for anything he does. you've given him a "free pass" for whatever he does.
     
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    I wasn't hinting but you proved my point

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    and as I've repeatedly said, I could give a shit about anything you say as SlyPokerDog is obviously the site's disturbed troll. I never ever respond to you initially. It's always you taking personal pot shots at me for what... three years now? Obsessed much troll? I'm sorry that your life is so empty that you feel the need to be the site's running joke. I only wish that you were occasionally proved right so I might actually feel that our exchanges were worth something. But you're going to have to change from within. Invest in yourself, get a therapist or at least a healthy hobby. I'm really tired of being the object of your obsession

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    I rarely post to you. The fact that you think you're the object of my obsession says a lot about your psyche, though. What's your point in this thread? That the debt ceiling being raised is blamed on the GOP, according to some polls, so that's good news for Barack?

    If that's the case, then isn't it you who is adding nothing, and just trolling for responses?
     
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    I see a lot of people complaining about trolling with PapaG, when its not trolling.

    The mods don't think its trolling, and they don't like to edit threads. People who accuse one of trolling are normally just upset one has a different opinion. You can see how freaked out Democrats are for example.
     
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    I have not responded to PapaG initially in years. He continues to take pot shots at me without provocation. Am I supposed to be okay with being told out of the blue that "my brain is rotten"? You don't think thats insulting? Would you be okay with being told your brain is rotten huevonkiller? Aren't you a mod? What exactly are you moderating? This is par for the course. Why is this allowed at a site that doesn't allow trolling?

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    Rather than getting upset with G, just have fun with it.

    Stomp the key is that it doesn't matter if someone hates you online, you can say almost whatever you want around here. I don't moderate much because we have laissez-faire standards.

    I don't really mind any trash talk directed at me. Also I don't personally believe in ignoring (putting people on ignore/block list) anyone online . I read every perspective and just laugh to myself if I disagree.
     
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    I think you have big ears and your eyes are too close together.

    Also you're not suppose to moderate at all in the Blazer forum. Only BrianInWa and myself get that privilege.
     
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    Also you're violating PandaBear's new signature rules. Please fix it or you will be reported.
     
  17. PapaG

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    You've been calling me a TROLL for years because I've had different opinions than you have. I suppose that's not worthy of a response from me, and I should just take that as well?

    Toughen up, buttercup. How do I "troll", and how have I "trolled" for the years you've been smearing me as a troll?

    I really don't care though, obviously. STOMP is just another guy who can dish it out, but can't take it right back at him.
     
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    I don't hate STOMP. He just has a hard time dealing with differing opinions. Perhaps the interweb forums aren't the best place for him? I like his posts on the Duck forum. Perhaps that's because we have the same opinion about the Ducks. I disagree with him most of the time in the OT forum, and if he can't handle some criticism, that's not really my problem.
     
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    Fuck, I had a poster here in the past month go to the trouble of buying my IP info, and then posting my name repeatedly in a thread. Did I whine about it, Sly? Nope. I laughed it off.

    That's not even my worst experience here with another poster, and I never asked that the most recent case be banned for posting my personal information that he clearly purchased somehow.
     
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    No one purchased your IP address. I did try to sell it but I had no takers.
     

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