So you are saying Avery has a bias towards Van Horn and Stackhouse and no matter how bad they play it won't effect their minutes? I listened to your points and you haven't proved to me that Van Horn deserves minutes. You even agreed with me that Stackhouse isn't deserving either by the way he played. Also why are you trying to stir things up with me and BALLAHOLLIC? That is the second time you brought him up.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>So you are saying Avery has a bias towards Van Horn and Stackhouse and no matter how bad they play it won't effect their minutes? I listened to your points and you haven't proved to me that Van Horn deserves minutes.</div>Why do I need to prove to you Van Horn deserves minutes. He will get minutes, and I don't see the issue in him playing over Powell like you do. And do I think Avery has a bias towards Van Horn and Stack, no. As far as I'm concerned if they play bad, Avery will sit them. But I do expect him to give them minutes to begin with. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>even agreed with me that Stackhouse isn't deserving either by the way he played.</div>Duh, and I also said I don't bi*ch about it like you do because Avery's coaching and your not going to change his mind. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Also why are you trying to stir things up with me and BALLAHOLLIC? That is the second time you brought him up.</div> don't make something out of nothing, it was a joke between me and balla on aim, and when was the first time? Man I can't believe this topic has this many replies. It's a simple thread about a player returning, how anyone can turn that into a negative amazes me. Done with this topic.
That is my complaint on you that make a big deal out of nothing. I don't like Van Horn's game and you turn it into I'm biased against Van Horn. I never said Avery isn't going to play Van Horn. I actually agree with you that he will probably play Van Horn over Powell. Not a big deal from there but I am fearful of Avery playing Van Horn like a 6th man like he did last year and most of this year. Van Horn hasn't played well off of injuries. When he first came to Dallas off the ankle injury he was in a big slump until he finally started getting it together. Anyways we're playing Memphis right now so having Devin Harris play off an injury isn't as big of a deal and Harris was crucial to our success earlier in the season. Van Horn coming back right against San Antonio is not the right time to shake off your rust. He hasn't played well against San Antonio this year. Horry played very well against him. So in final I'm ok with him backing up Dirk but not comfortable with him having a bigger role for Dallas like like playing small forward or center.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>That is my complaint on you that make a big deal out of nothing. I don't like Van Horn's game and you turn it into I'm biased against Van Horn.</div>I'm not the one who started this debate. I commented on how Van Horn coming back was good and you respond by saying he would ruin our chemistry. A point that made no sense to me. And it's a biased comment you made. I mean you made up stats to negate him. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>So in final I'm ok with him backing up Dirk but not comfortable with him having a bigger role for Dallas like like playing small forward or center.</div>If it was that simple to state, why didn't you do it in the first place?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Apr 28 2006, 05:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not the one who started this debate. I commented on how Van Horn coming back was good and you respond by saying he would ruin our chemistry. A point that made no sense to me. And it's a biased comment you made. I mean you made up stats to negate him.</div>I didn't say it would ruin our chemistry but tweaking something that is already great doesn't make sense. Ok it is getting old but just because I don't have confidence in a player doesn't mean I dislike him. I didn't make up stats. I saw the stats on 82games.com and that just proves on what I was arguing about when Van Horn is in the game. These are +/- of a certain player when they are in the game and out. 1 game isn't enough proof of a certain players worth but over an extended period of time it is close to being right on. Stats don't mean anything to you even though they should. I do realize now that Powell is just as bad but I think it is partially because he is not getting consistent minutes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I didn't say it would ruin our chemistry but tweaking something that is already great doesn't make sense.</div>Hurting our chemistry can be taken the same way, and are we not supposed to tweak our roster if someone is healthy enough to return? Were doing it with Harris, who hasn't played with us for almost a month, excusing that one game. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I didn't make up stats.</div> Van Horn going 0-3 with a turnover is making up stats.
That was just an example. It doesn't mean it will happen but my confidence for Van Horn is not high. Van Horn has been shooting poorly and turnover prone all year but you overlook that like you usually do with stats. An occasional great game doesn't make up for the games he shoots horrible in. All I'm saying I'll be drinking heavy when Van Horn is in the game against the spurs.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>That was just an example. It doesn't mean it will happen but my confidence for Van Horn is not high. Van Horn has been shooting poorly and turnover prone all year but you overlook that like you usually do with stats. An occasional great game doesn't make up for the games he shoots horrible in. All I'm saying I'll be drinking heavy when Van Horn is in the game against the spurs. </div>I'm not overlooking stats, I just don't think it's an issue if Van Horn plays behind Dirk. Unless there's foul trouble, Van Horn should be in limited minutes(a perfect example is the game against Pistons). Something I like rather then Powell because having Powell paired with our center, their going to dare us to shoot with those guys. Van Horn despite his woes this year still has the respect to keep defenses honest with his past play. I don't have my expectations high on Stack and Van Horn like you may have, that's probably why I'm not worried.Also it seems like you put a lot on Van Horn and Stack, if they don't play perfect, your all over them.
