PG13 has played all 3 positions, SG, SF and PF, but he hated playing PF. Indiana tried to make him into a small ball 4 and he hated it. If (and I hope to god it doesn't happen), LAL gets both LeBron and PG13, he won't have to play the 4. LeBron can easily handle that. With Ingram's improved 3-point shooting, he can play the SG role on offense and PG13 can guard the opposing SG or SF, depending on who is the better offensive player. Point being, there is no reason to move Ingram if they land LeBron and PG13. LeBron and PG13 are versatile enough at both ends of the court to fit with just about any lineup you could concoct. BNM
"More common." "More interchangeable." These aren't absolute terms. Also "can" is different than "do;" it's lineup dependent. PG isn't going to guard CJ except for spot duty, for example, at least not well. You are also talking about the exceptions, which is fine but does not represent the norm by any means.
Huh? PG is one of the best OTB defenders in the league. My point, that I didn't illustrate clear enough, is that I disagree that they're more common.
Both PG and Butler are great defensive players with differing styles of playing defense. Butler moves his feet really well and gets chest up into the body and PG uses his arms and incredible prescience to reign players in and bother the dribble/shot. All I'm saying is I've notice PG's style is not conducive to guarding CJ. I obviously picked the wrong example. My fault. As to the more common, more interchangeable stuff. I'm surprised it's even arguable. I think, in general, lineups are less rigid than they once were, and yes these super dynamic players can play multiple positions. But just think of when we moved Chief to the 4 and how strange that seemed--at first. Because LA was the traditional-sized PF we were all used to. Now, guys like Carmelo have moved from SF to PF, and LeBron, because the forward position is just that now: SF and PF. There are many examples, but the Blazers have enough to suffice. Moe, same thing: SF, who can switch onto, or even play PF. As for the combo guard thing; let's again just look at the Blazers. Which Blazer guards fit that mold? CJ, Dame, Baldwin, new kid Simons, and even Napier at times. And that's just on the Blazers! There are of course exceptions: Ben Simmons and KD and LeBron and Ingram and half of the Bucks roster and so forth. And there are three guard lineups and stuff that put people in unique positions. And this SG/SF mold BNM mentions certainly exists. Guys like Pat or ET or Trent Jr (Coincidentally, what do those guys have in common? They kind of suck.) I'm happy to agree to disagree.
Well I was responding to a post that suggested we should try and get Ingram if LeBron goes to Lakers, and said we don’t have the assets to get it done. Then you said that they will do whatever LeBron tells them to do and I just said I didn’t believe one of those things would be to ask Lakers to get rid of Ingram for less than his value and send him here. I don’t see how I don’t have a clue here, honestly. I just said we can’t trade for Ingram and you basically said it’s up to LeBron.
Old dudes, Lee shoots better, Chandler rebounds better. Scoring, assists, TOV, and defensive numbers are very similar. Lee has been in a whole lot more playoff games if that is what we are looking for. I guess I would prefer Lee because he fills a nice gap until our new guys get up to speed. Brings playoff experience, hits the three at a high percent. Could take over Patty's role. Would it be better to take Lee with the TPE or give Pat a 2 year contract for half that? Pat is a better defender, would cost less, and shoots almost as well.
If the cost was the same, I agree. Barton--if he can play within Stotts' system--does a lot more things and you certainly don't have to tell him to shoot.
