Vince Demands Trade

Just for fun....

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MaxaMillion711:</div><div class="quote_post">Hah, I would love to see Vince in Houston back with his cousin. That would be quite a trio.

Tmac, Vince and Yao.</div>

That would be sick but still wouldnt have a chance of winning gold.

 

oh god...here we go again

dwayne wade? jerry stackhouse?

first of all..why should we trade vince to a contender just to make him happy? that trade doesnt benefit the raptors in any way. it makes our team worse. if vince wants to be traded, the raps should send him to whoever will give us equal return. not a contender just so he gets what he wants

second...dwayne wade? i hope that was a joke. thats like the cavs trading bron, or denver trading melo.

 

Yea, Carter for Stackhouse Stackhouse who can hardly shoot over 42%, is one of the worst hogs, tuns over the ball a lot [pre minute he had more turnovers than Arenas even], is a worse defender than Carter, one of the worst SG rebounders, is the opposite of clutch, and can't shoot from the field at all.

I don't know about him being injury prone, just cause he got injured one season doesn't make him injury prone. It's like saying Arenas is injury prone.


Wade is going nowhere for the person that even thinks that's slightly realistic :thumbsdow

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Gangsta_nerd:</div><div class="quote_post">Toronto trades: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 36.5 minutes)
PG Roger Mason (3.7 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 1.0 apg in 12.7 minutes)
Toronto receives: SG Eddie Jones (17.3 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 3.2 apg in 37.0 minutes)
PG Dwyane Wade (16.3 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 4.5 apg in 34.9 minutes)
SG Wesley Person (5.8 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 17.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -1.5 ppg, -6.0 rpg, and +1.5 apg.

Miami trades: SG Eddie Jones (17.3 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 3.2 apg in 37.0 minutes)
PG Dwyane Wade (16.3 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 4.5 apg in 34.9 minutes)
SG Wesley Person (5.8 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 17.9 minutes)
Miami receives: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 73 games)
PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 82 games)
PG Roger Mason (3.7 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 1.0 apg in 26 games)
Change in team outlook: +1.5 ppg, +6.0 rpg, and -1.5 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Due to Toronto and Miami being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Toronto and Miami had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Its an intresting trade but miami prolly wouldn't bite.</div>

HA! That trade is an absolute joke. If Miami ever traded away Dwyane Wade, that IS trading away that franchise. He is the franchise player down there, and will be so for many years. The Heat would NEVER be dumb enough to do it. Vince Carter, good player, but, Dwyane Wade has more value than him at this point. Wade won't go anywhere, especially not for an oft-injured Vince Carter.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GjonC:</div><div class="quote_post">Yo, look at your team(toronto raptors) before u talk about another team thats better(knicks)! (and we will see who everyone is gonna laugh at for the next 2-3 years)</div>
Who's the team with the total salary of $103,597,539 04-05 season and still couldn't make the playoffs? Who's the team that took someone like Anfernee Hardaway for over $14 million a season? Oh wait I forgot about Allan Houston's ludicruous $17 million contract that only gets better up until 06-07 season when he's set to make $20 million a year. Admit it, Isiah Thomas isn't planning jacksquat but to cause the bankruptcy of the Knicks ownership.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">HA! That trade is an absolute joke. If Miami ever traded away Dwyane Wade, that IS trading away that franchise. He is the franchise player down there, and will be so for many years. The Heat would NEVER be dumb enough to do it. Vince Carter, good player, but, Dwyane Wade has more value than him at this point. Wade won't go anywhere, especially not for an oft-injured Vince Carter.</div>

I completely agree with your comment but can we stop with the injury comments? Vince Carter only missed 3 games due to a injury sustained previously. Had the freak accident, that could of happened to any player, and does not add to his injury history. The only concerns are his knees, and he only missed 3 games last season because of it.

 

Yea I know people just seem to say the injury thing every chance they get , it's getting old.

 

Best deal the Raptors could get for Vince?

<font size="1">Toronto trades: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 36.5 minutes)
SF Lamond Murray (6.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 15.7 minutes)
PF Jerome Moiso (2.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.2 apg in 11.9 minutes)
Toronto receives: SF Shawn Marion (19.0 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.7 apg in 40.7 minutes)
PG Howard Eisley (6.9 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 4.1 apg in 21.8 minutes)
SG Nene Hilario (16.7 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 4.4 apg in 40.6 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -20.2 ppg, -9.3 rpg, and -0.6 apg.

Phoenix trades: SF Shawn Marion (19.0 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.7 apg in 40.7 minutes)
PG Howard Eisley (6.9 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 4.1 apg in 21.8 minutes)
SG Joe Johnson (16.7 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 4.4 apg in 40.6 minutes)
Phoenix receives: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 73 games)
PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 82 games)
SF Lamond Murray (6.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 33 games)
Change in team outlook: +0.6 ppg, +1.4 rpg, and -4.0 apg.

Denver trades: SG Nene Hilario (16.7 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 4.4 apg in 40.6 minutes)
Denver receives: PF Jerome Moiso (2.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.2 apg in 35 games)
SG Joe Johnson (16.7 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 4.4 apg in 82 games)
Change in team outlook: +19.6 ppg, +7.9 rpg, and +4.6 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED</font>

I think this is something like the best deal we could get for Vince, or this to the Clippers:



<font size="1">Toronto trades: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 36.5 minutes)
SF Morris Peterson (8.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 1.4 apg in 26.1 minutes)
Toronto receives: SG Kerry Kittles (13.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 34.7 minutes)
SF Corey Maggette (20.7 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 36.0 minutes)
PF Chris Wilcox (8.6 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 20.6 minutes)
SG Marko Jaric (8.5 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.8 apg in 30.4 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +5.4 ppg, -0.2 rpg, and +3.5 apg.

L.A. Clippers trades: SG Kerry Kittles (13.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 34.7 minutes)
SF Corey Maggette (20.7 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 36.0 minutes)
PF Chris Wilcox (8.6 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 20.6 minutes)
SG Marko Jaric (8.5 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.8 apg in 30.4 minutes)
L.A. Clippers receives: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 73 games)
PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 82 games)
SF Morris Peterson (8.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 1.4 apg in 82 games)
Change in team outlook: -5.4 ppg, +0.2 rpg, and -3.5 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED</font>




<u>To Phoenix, our lineup will be:</u>
PG - Rafer Alston
SG - Jalen Rose
SF - Shawn Marion
PF - Chris Bosh
C - Nene


<u>The Nuggets:</u>
PG - Andre Miller
SG - Joe Johnson
SF - Carmelo Anthony
PF - Kenyon Martin
C - Marcus Camby


<u>Phoenix:</u>
PG - Steve Nash
SG - Quentin Richardson
SF - Vince Carter
PF -Amare Stoudemire
C - Jake Voshkuhl
with Donyell Marshall as the 6th man.....






To the Clippers


<u>Raptors</u>
PG - Rafer Alston
SG - Kerry Kittles
SF - Corey Maggette
PF - Chris Bosh
C - Chris Wilcox
with Jalen Rose [or Kerry Kittles] as the 6th man......


<u>Clippers</u>
PG - Shaun Livingston
SG - Vince Carter
SF - Morris Peterson
PF - Elton Brand
C - Chris Kaman
with Donyell Marshall as the 6th man.......

 

I say trade him and Mo Pete to the Clips for Corey Maggette, next years first round pick (which will probably be low) and Chris Wilcox. Thats the best one I can think of right now.

 

Its definitly realistic, but I believe the Suns would be the ones wanting Nene. I know salaries won't work, but something that would see us getting Marion, Denver getting JJ and Phoenix getting VC and Nene would be something I think would work for all teams.

 

The only thing I think is that Denver might want someone reliable at Center in case Camby went down with an injury. In that case they wouldn't want to trade Nene.

I also agree that Phoenix would want Nene because they need a Center to play with Amare, and he would fit ncely if they were to run the ball, Nene and Amare on the break, that's craziness.

 

I like Marion, but is he one to focus your offense around? He has never been a number one scoring option before, always being the one to get the hustle points and an occasional jumpshot. He is a good player to have on a team, but his offensive skills are still too raw to be a primary option IMO.

 

I don't think the team needs to get a guy to focus the ball around, if they can run the ball, Marion can work with it, he'll create about 8-9 points by himself, and about 1 or 2 of those will be off of offensive boards, but he can still get 18+ points on the team.

I understand your worries that Jalen Rose will be the only true go-to-guy on the team, but I'd like that team. The frontcourt defense would be amazing, and Bosh can carry some load offensively [13-14 points], though he's no go to guy at the moment.

The team can make the playoffs, in the future if Bosh's development can go even further, and with him and Nene it will be pretty nice.

 

Vince Carter for Paul Pierce thats about all iwould do if i was the raps.

 

^ Paul Pierce is worth more then VC on the court (IMO), I'd never do that trade if I were Boston.

I like the trade with Pheonix....that lineup would certainly take the Atlantic no doubt, and it would also make Phx's lineup even more greater then it looks as of now...

But who knows what Babcock has planned though? It's been rumoured there aren't that many offers coming in and the ones that do are for scrubby players (Shandon Anderson). You gotta be kidding me.

 

About the Pierce thing, so you mean you wouldn't trade VC basically?

I'd rather do this, seriously, I'd rather fill 2 needs at SF and C, and even backup PG with Eisley, than just swap Vince and Pierce, which truthfully wouldn't change much for our team.

 

he doesnt want to b traded to the west so those 2 trades are probably no good i say trade him and someone else to indiana for artest and pollard or a 1st

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting thedude9990:</div><div class="quote_post">he doesnt want to b traded to the west so those 2 trades are probably no good i say trade him and someone else to indiana for artest and pollard or a 1st</div>
What's he gonna do?
It doesn't matte what Vince want's, it matters what the team needs.

 

Where Vince wants to go doesn't concern Babcock. If he trades him, I hope it's to a West team where he'll have to work for an all-star nomination and have to work harder to score everyday.

I meant I wouldn't trade VC for Pierce straight up If I were Boston. If I were the Raptors, I'd take that trade in a flash. Paul is tired of losing and Toronto has a young and promising team which Vince wants to ditch all of a sudden, when its on the right path and on it's way up. After VC gets traded, I really hope the Raptors face (if he goes to the East) his new team in the playoffs and beat him with the same roster he decided to ditch. Now that'd be sweet.