Vince Wants Out

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    God I can't stand Michelle Carter... she made Vince a mama's boy... not by a choice ya know... she just leave the boy alone and keep her mouth shut once in a while... I know she's been out of public for awhile but she's still talking, no question about it... [​IMG]
     
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    Oh man, ive never seen so many bad trade proposals in one thread.

    There is NO WAY teams are going to give that much for Vince. No way in hell.. who said take your purple glasses off was right.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Although, i think the major disjunction between me and other people is how we gauge vince's worth. i think he's a worth something but he?s not worth a superstar like an a.i. or kobe. i think most people on these forums inflate his value, he's a good player but not great so i would trade him before his value eviscerates.</div>
    No one thinks Carter is worth Kobe, that's just stupidness, but I wouldn't take AI for Carter
     
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    This isn't really realisitic, but I was just thinking of some weird proposals that I wish could come true, and this was one of them:

    <u>Indiana Acquires</u>

    Vince Carter
    Jerome Moiso
    Milt Palacio

    <u>Toronto Acquires</u>

    Ron Artest
    Jeff Foster
    Jamaal Tinsley
     
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    You'd take AI for Carter if you had to or you would want AI over Carter?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ADubb20:</div><div class="quote_post">You'd take AI for Carter if you had to or you would want AI over Carter?</div>

    I know this isn't directed to me, but there's no way I take AI over Carter.
     
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    How come I can't quote, that box in the corner where it says "Quote message in reply?" doesn't let me click.

    I wouldn't take AI over Carter either, take nothing away from AI.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ADubb20:</div><div class="quote_post">How come I can't quote, that box in the corner where it says "Quote message in reply?" doesn't let me click.

    I wouldn't take AI over Carter either, take nothing away from AI.</div>

    I think its because you're using the quick reply - - which means your not reffering to anyones specific post
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting banks3:</div><div class="quote_post">I think its because you're using the quick reply - - which means your not reffering to anyones specific post</div>

    Damn i've been doin that the whole time.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ADubb20:</div><div class="quote_post">You'd take AI for Carter if you had to or you would want AI over Carter?</div>
    I wouldn't take AI over Carter, nothing against AI but his gamestyle doesn't appeal to me much, but that's not even a real factor, but his contract, his age, his injuries last season and the fact that he would complain to his mom who is like Carter's mom also and doesn't leave him alone.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">No one thinks Carter is worth Kobe, that's just stupidness, but I wouldn't take AI for Carter</div>

    well here's why i think the ai for carter trade would be lopsided for the raptors. i believe vince has peaked as a player whereas ai might still have one or two mvp calibre seasons left in him. u are right, i do think vince's career will have more longevity than ai cause ai clearly is over dependant on his speed and history dictates thats the first things that goes with age. however, i hate to get sentimental on you but don't we live for those moments, those transcendent, ecstatic moments of triumph and ai is the dude that can take us there. this might entail us sacrificing future success 4, 5 years from now when ai's skills diminish dramatically but bosh would be entering his prime and jalen would be off the books. so its not as big of a conundrum as it might appear. AI= basketball orgasm
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kaillou:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh man, ive never seen so many bad trade proposals in one thread.

    There is NO WAY teams are going to give that much for Vince. No way in hell.. who said take your purple glasses off was right.</div>

    you have to realize something...vince's value is higher then most, not because of his numbers, but because of what he means to a franchise as a business. because vince leads the league in ASG votes...and is one of the most popular players in the league...he's guaranteed to sell tickets and fill seats. teams are going to be salivating at the idea of having a ticket seller like vince in town. he's worth more then what his numbers say
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">well here's why i think the ai for carter trade would be lopsided for the raptors. i believe vince has peaked as a player whereas ai might still have one or two mvp calibre seasons left in him. u are right, i do think vince's career will have more longevity than ai cause ai clearly is over dependant on his speed and history dictates thats the first things that goes with age. however, i hate to get sentimental on you but don't we live for those moments, those transcendent, ecstatic moments of triumph and ai is the dude that can take us there. this might entail us sacrificing future success 4, 5 years from now when ai's skills diminish dramatically but bosh would be entering his prime and jalen would be off the books. so its not as big of a conundrum as it might appear. AI= basketball orgasm</div>

    Good point there, but when you say that Vince has peaked as a player (which is true), I also think AIs has too. Hes older than Vince, hes had injuries the in the past. If AI can stay healthy he may have 2-3 more great season's in him, but remember that big "if". Also he launches a lot of shots during a game, a shoots around 39-42% each game, which is hurtfull to our team. If you remember most of the games last season (when all players were healthy), and some seasons before that, we usually get killed in games because of our poor shooting percentage. I would rather have a more efficient player(s) (doesn't mean better) for our team, mainly because we haven't had the ability to stay consistent for 48 minutes. AI has certainly done the job in the past, but he wouldn't be able to turn us into a winner.
     
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    I just wanna say that isnt there anyone who aggrese with me that Vince Carter should just try one more season with the raps and see if it works with the new cach and new rookie plus i would be pissed if he got traded cos who would then fill the seats in the arena...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting banks3:</div><div class="quote_post">This isn't really realisitic, but I was just thinking of some weird proposals that I wish could come true, and this was one of them:

    <u>Indiana Acquires</u>

    Vince Carter
    Jerome Moiso
    Milt Palacio

    <u>Toronto Acquires</u>

    Ron Artest
    Jeff Foster
    Jamaal Tinsley</div>

    You crazy! It's gon be just Ronnie for those three you posted!
     
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    I'm pissed that Vince has talked about having a great season before each of the last 3 seasons, and he hasn't done crap. I'll just give him one more chance, but that means that all of you shouldn't be requesting out of the blue proposed trades involving Vince because he is most likely untouchable this off-season.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting B-flame:</div><div class="quote_post">I just wanna say that isnt there anyone who aggrese with me that Vince Carter should just try one more season with the raps and see if it works with the new cach and new rookie plus i would be pissed if he got traded cos who would then fill the seats in the arena...</div>

    Is Carter so fat?....naw just kidding! Who do you think: The poeple that want to see a nice game.
     
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    I agree with Chungster ........... and she is fine as hell.....dont u think so Kareem
     
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    Bronxteerex , yes and no
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting B-flame:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree with Chungster ........... and she is fine as hell.....dont u think so Kareem</div>

    Ehh? just because the person got a woman on it's Avy it's not sure it's them in real life........by the way I thought you liked VC? if he hasn't done anything why not trade him?
     

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