You still have steered around the question. Why is it that Wade WANTs to go under the TUTORAGE of KOBE BRYANT during the offseason? WHY? Why not Micheal Jordan? Why not Lebron James? Why does he choose to work with Kobe instead? Wade is good, but he knows he's not at the level Kobe is at. That is why he wants to train with the best. TO BECOME the best. No one ever said he would not pass up Bryant as the best SG in the NBA. Wade knows he has to improve his game. So he trains with the best the game has to offer.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You still have steered around the question. Why is it that Wade WANTs to go under the TUTORAGE of KOBE BRYANT during the offseason? WHY? Why not Micheal Jordan? Why not Lebron James? Why does he choose to work with Kobe instead? Wade is good, but he knows he's not at the level Kobe is at. That is why he wants to train with the best. TO BECOME the best. No one ever said he would not pass up Bryant as the best SG in the NBA. Wade knows he has to improve his game. So he trains with the best the game has to offer.</div> Yes he went to Kobe for some tips, and apparently it worked for him......with that being said let's not credit D Wades awesome Finals performace to Kobe Bryant talking to him over the offseason.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chutney:</div><div class="quote_post">Damn, I just missed the cut.</div> We should start our own list.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trench:</div><div class="quote_post">You still have steered around the question. Why is it that Wade WANTs to go under the TUTORAGE of KOBE BRYANT during the offseason? WHY? </div> Well, hypothetically, if you were the best player at your position, it would make sense that you'd like to train with the second best player at your position. And if they are older and more experienced, maybe you'll pick some things as well. Wade wanting to train with Kobe doesn't mean that he thinks Kobe is a better player. He may not even think in those terms ("player A is better than player B"). Kobe obviously has a lot of knowledge about the game, and there's lots of things Wade can learn from him. That doesn't necessarily mean he thinks Kobe is better. And even if he did, I'm not so sure how much that matters.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trench:</div><div class="quote_post">You still have steered around the question. Why is it that Wade WANTs to go under the TUTORAGE of KOBE BRYANT during the offseason? WHY? Why not Micheal Jordan? Why not Lebron James? Why does he choose to work with Kobe instead? Wade is good, but he knows he's not at the level Kobe is at. That is why he wants to train with the best. TO BECOME the best. No one ever said he would not pass up Bryant as the best SG in the NBA. Wade knows he has to improve his game. So he trains with the best the game has to offer.</div> the answer was right in ur face <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Would Wade have taken no shots in the 4th qtr in game 7 against the suns? No...... So im going with Wade. Wade is smarter than kobe. Physically they are about the same taking in consideration kobes height and wades hands. Wade just has more Heart. <u>Kobe is the most skilled guard in the league </u>but right now Wade is just Sick.</div>
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You still have steered around the question. Why is it that Wade WANTs to go under the TUTORAGE of KOBE BRYANT during the offseason? WHY? </div>ooooooooohh thats the question everybody's been thinking about this whole time? <font color=""red"">Jordan </font>wanted train with Magic Reggie Michael Finley Bj Armstrong among others during the offseason numerous times. --and then what? They we're good players in the league; Magic was always one of the best--- this didnt mean that <font color=""red"">Jordan</font> thought Magic was the better player- and I know you know he didnt. >>>>> He respected the different perspective and talents he brought to the game, plus Magic, or Kobe in this situation was one of the best available. So we done with that question or what? I got a question for yall. Why dont they ever compare new superstars in the league against Kobe's numbers or career? He's no longer a kid, been in the league 10 years-- I think he's put enough time in right? You know why they dont?-- cuz its a waste of time; esp. when guys like Wade and Lebron are already better than him after 3 years. 3 years-- when <font color=""Purple"">Kobe</font> was turning 21 he had barely began getting major minutes on a young Laker's team.>> and look over here at Lebron , at 3 years in the league he's already better than the man has ever been in his whole life-- and will only begin to distance himself more. On another note, <u>Shape, Trench </u>and a lot of the Laker fans, you guys say Kobe will be the best ever? The greatest when it's all decided? Why after 10 years are you guys still talking in "maybe's" and "if then's" and "in possibly10 more years". Does anybody remember when <font color=""red"">Jordan</font> was playing, the media and fans saying after 10 years into his career that "maybe" in 10 more years he'll finally be better than Dr J. ? That after a full 10 years people would talk about Jordan and say-" well if stays healthy and plays 10 more years, possibly then he might surpass Julius" ? <font color=""Red"">Jordan</font> was basically uniformally ordained the better player no less than 6-7 years into his career, that including his 2nd season on the DL. Fact is anybody who says Kobe as a name, as an archived player profile is better than Jordan has a skewed view. When you think of the two players and how their careers panned out- there is absolutely no way you can say Kobe is better than Jordan, or ever was; the only thing a Kobe supporter would have would be the "if" - which is a huge discount to MJ; as with <font color=""red"">Jordan</font>, or Magic, or <font color=""Green"">Bird,</font> or Dream or Shaq or basically any name you bring up there was never an "if" IT was apparent-- either they we're going to be better than someone or they weren't. You guys holding on to this hope that was never there shows your disrespect for <font color=""red"">Jordan </font>and the NBA history itself.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AIRTIGHT:</div><div class="quote_post">ooooooooohh thats the question everybody's been thinking about this whole time? <font color=""red"">Jordan </font>wanted train with Magic Reggie Michael Finley Bj Armstrong among others during the offseason numerous times. --and then what? They we're good players in the league; Magic was always one of the best--- this didnt mean that <font color=""red"">Jordan</font> Magic was the better player. >>>>> He respected the different perspective and talents he brought to the game, plus Magic, or Kobe in this situation was one of the best available. So we done with that question or what? I got a question for yall. Why dont they ever compare new superstars in the league against Kobe's numbers or career? He's no longer a kid, been in the league 10 years-- I think he's put enough time in right? You know why they dont?-- cuz its a waste of time; esp. when guys like Wade and Lebron are already better than him after 3 years. 3 years-- when <font color=""Purple"">Kobe</font> was turning 21 he had barely began getting major minutes on a young Laker's team.>> and look over here at Lebron , at 3 years in the league he's already better than the man has ever been in his whole life-- and will only begin to distance himself more. On another note, Shape, Trench and a lot of the Laker fans, you guys say Kobe will be the best ever? The greatest when it's all decided? Why after 10 years are you guys still talking in "maybe's" and "if then's" and "in possibly10 more years". Does anybody remember when <font color=""red"">Jordan</font> was playing, the media and fans saying after 10 years into his career that "maybe" in 10 more years he'll finally be better than Dr J. ? That after a full 10 years people would talk about Jordan and say-" well if stays healthy and plays 10 more years, possibly then he might surpass Julius" ? <font color=""Red"">Jordan</font> was basically uniformally ordained the better player no less than 6-7 years into his career, that including his 2nd season on the DL. Fact is anybody who says Kobe as a name, as an archived player profile is better than Jordan has a skewed view. When you think of the two players and how their careers panned out- there is absolutely no way you can say Kobe is better than Jordan, or ever was; the only thing a Kobe supporter would have would be the "if" - which is a huge discount to MJ; as with <font color=""red"">Jordan</font>, or Magic, or <font color=""Green"">Bird,</font> or Dream or Shaq or basically any name you bring up there was never an "if" IT was apparent-- either they we're going to be better than someone or they weren't. You guys holding on to this hope that was never there shows your disrespect for <font color=""red"">Jordan </font>and the NBA history itself.</div> Nope never said this. I asked the question, what would Kobe have to accomplish to surpass Jordan? And can Kobe accomplish those things in the next 10 seasons. If Kobe leads this Laker team to 5 NBA titles during the next 10 seasons would it be enough? Or will it take more? If more, than how many? <div class="quote_poster">Quoting airtight:</div><div class="quote_post">Why dont they ever compare new superstars in the league against Kobe's numbers or career?</div> Are you kidding? People constantly compare Kobe Bryant to the current players in the league. TMac, Wade, LeBron, Pierce, any guard or swing player in the league has been compared against Kobe.
whens the last time they compared Kobe's lifetime #'s to Wade or Lebron? Sure they compare them as talents, noone compares them numerically
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AIRTIGHT:</div><div class="quote_post">whens the last time they compared Kobe's lifetime #'s to Wade or Lebron? Sure they compare them as talents, noone compares them numerically</div> John Hollinger compared them all season long with his statistical analysis. ESPN has done several segments comparing the three. It's been debated by a lot of basketball analysts. Right now it's impossible to compare careers. LeBron and Wade simply haven't played long enough to draw comparisons. The only way you can compare is if you project out how LeBron and Wade will end up based on their current production. If you want to project it out, I'd say LeBron will surpass Kobe at his current pace, he's also in position to surpass Jordan as well. He's breaking all the scoring records and I don't see him slowing down anytime soon. Wade is going to be a little tougher because he didn't come to the league straight out of high school. The Heat's title run is likely done after this season because of their cap situation, so it's hard to say if Wade can win more than one title in Miami.
cmon. You and I both know, whenever Lebron or Wade do anything great, they are compared mainly against Larry Magic or <font color=""Red"">Jordan</font> and.. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If Kobe leads this Laker team to 5 NBA titles during the next 10 seasons would it be enough? Or will it take more? If more, than how many?</div> hahah, yea, that should do it. Who needs Xbox when we got the "if" game? Ok, I see we aint gettin nowhere here... Imma let somebody else take up this argument for me for a while, I'll check back in a few.
Kobe by accomplishments is a better player than Wade. Kobe in terms of skill and ability to score is better than Wade. It's close though, I think a couple years Wade may be better, although maybe not though. I think Wade is a better teammate though, although I'm kind of basing it on Kobe's past actions and this year he seemed to be better. In reference to Shape on Wade only having this year as a title shot. Its possible anything can happen, however if things remain similar, Detroit could lose Big Ben, and most likely won't improve hugely next year, and the Cavs just aren't there yet. So if things are fairly consistent Miami should have more title shots.
Wade isn't going to get back to the finals with this team, this is his shot. Shaq's breaking down, quick. He's not a shell of his former self. Miami is going to have to put great pieces around Wade to get him back, like L.A. is trying to do. For you people who don't think that Wade will be in Kobe's situation once Shaq's gone, think again. Shaq helps EVERYBODY on the court. Wade's game is amazing, but it's not Kobe amazing. He can't drop a 3 when your team really needs it, he can't pull up and drop a long perimeter shot, he can't back his man down and pull out an MJesque fade away, he doens't have the ball handling skills of Kobe. I love Wade, too, so don't take this as hate. I think Wade'll have a better career than LeBron, I think he's a better player than LeBron, as well. But, Wade can't lead a team by himself, yet. He needs to improve his defense, perimeter offense, and his free throw shooting good use some work. With his work ethic, anythings possible, but right now...he's not better than Kobe.
I have a feeling Wade and the Heat could be around for a while....Shaq is getting older, but can still be effective, and as long as they have some decent role players they'll be okay.
Shaq's getting too old. Sure, they'll get to the 2nd/3rd round of the play-offs, but I think this is their shot in the Finals.
Shaq's presence alone makes a huge difference. He'll still be good for a solid 18/8 for the next couple of years, and with Wade getting better every season, I don't think the Heat are going anywhere for a while.
Before continuing this comparason, Give Wade that young Shaq that Kobe once had. Then we can compare. Wade is playing with old Shaq. Kobe had Shaq when he was the best of his career. However, I can feel some lakers fans are going to say "Shaq wasn't the best here, he was better in Orlando" Please don't....
Give kobe the old shaq. I think they can still dominate the NBA for 5 more years if there is not any conflict between them. I believe Kobe can make the "OLD" shaq better too since Kobe's jump shots are way better than Wade's which leads the opponents to double team kobe outside the paint a lot more than on wade and that free up more space for shaq. Again, it will only happen if they are willing to share the ball with each other, like what they did when they won 3 championships TOGETHER.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TopLake:</div><div class="quote_post">Give kobe the old shaq. I think they can still dominate the NBA for 5 more years if there is not any conflict between them. I believe Kobe can make the "OLD" shaq better too since Kobe's jump shots are way better than Wade's which leads the opponents to double team kobe outside the paint a lot more than on wade and that free up more space for shaq. Again, it will only happen if they are willing to share the ball with each other, like what they did when they won 3 championships TOGETHER.</div> Ye you think. Very convincing. Neither fans will change their views. I just don't like any comparison. I don't know what the point is, what people are trying to prove, die hard fans will never change thier views and root for their stars. Whats comparison for?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting WadeDynasty:</div><div class="quote_post">Ye you think. Very convincing. Neither fans will change their views. I just don't like any comparison. I don't know what the point is, what people are trying to prove, die hard fans will never change thier views and root for their stars. Whats comparison for?</div> Well, I just said what i see up to now. For now, I don't see anything what Wade can do and Kobe can't do. But i can see something that Kobe can do and wade can't do. I am not saying about the future. Wade will continue to develop and he will get better. But for now, I believe Kobe is better.
Yea but Shaq and Kobe with their supporting cast of this year would never get past a San Antonio or a Dallas. If you give Wade the old Shaq with this Heat team, they would be a dynasty. Wade is the perfect teamate and even said he would take Shaq over any other player in the league.
