is it me or are these so-and-so is better than so-and-so arguments basically unwinnable? it's like arguing over who's hotter Angelina Jolie or Halle Berry. they're both amazing players. Kobe is FAR more interesting though. Wade is just plain boring. Squeaky clean. Always politically correct. Never gets too emotional. he's just too perfect. i can't get excited about him at all as a fan. Kobe has some flaws. People with flaws are more likeable.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker15:</div><div class="quote_post">Yea but Shaq and Kobe with their supporting cast of this year would never get past a San Antonio or a Dallas. If you give Wade the old Shaq with this Heat team, they would be a dynasty. Wade is the perfect teamate and even said he would take Shaq over any other player in the league.</div> You expect Wade to say he wants Yao in front of Shaq??
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting phunDamentalz:</div><div class="quote_post"> Wade is just plain boring. Squeaky clean. Always politically correct. Never gets too emotional. he's just too perfect. i can't get excited about him at all as a fan. Kobe has some flaws. People with flaws are more likeable.</div> Are you just talking about personality, here, or their game?
They're just talkin to see themselves talk. Everybody can see Wade's the better player; if not 'right now'- he will be universally recognized as for their whole careers. "<font color=""Purple"">Kobe'</font>s has a nicer jumpshot" "Kobe has a better turnaround fadeaway" " <font color=""Purple"">Kobe</font> is more interesting" "<font color=""Purple"">Kobe</font> is more fun to be around" bringing up anything and everything irrelevant to this conversation ... gimme a damn break. These clowns know it's over for <font color=""Purple"">Kobe</font> as the heir to the game; and they also realize he had plenty of opportunity-- they made excuses while he was winning championships a few years back that his team was too good for him to stand out individually. They realize now with the arrival of James and Wade that he was just never good enough.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AIRTIGHT:</div><div class="quote_post">They're just talkin to see themselves talk. Everybody can see Wade's the better player; if not 'right now'- he will be universally recognized as for their whole careers. "<font color=""Purple"">Kobe'</font>s has a nicer jumpshot" "Kobe has a better turnaround fadeaway" " <font color=""Purple"">Kobe</font> is more interesting" "<font color=""Purple"">Kobe</font> is more fun to be around" bringing up anything and everything irrelevant to this conversation ... gimme a damn break. These clowns know it's over for <font color=""Purple"">Kobe</font> as the heir to the game; and they also realize he had plenty of opportunity-- they made excuses while he was winning championships a few years back that his team was too good for him to stand out individually. They realize now with the arrival of James and Wade that he was just never good enough.</div> Yes because people are forced to choose. If you like Kobe you automatically hate every other player in the league. Cheering for Wade means you're a Kobe hater.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">They're just talkin to see themselves talk. Everybody can see Wade's the better player; if not 'right now'- he will be universally recognized as for their whole careers. "Kobe's has a nicer jumpshot" "Kobe has a better turnaround fadeaway" " Kobe is more interesting" "Kobe is more fun to be around" bringing up anything and everything irrelevant to this conversation ... gimme a damn break. These clowns know it's over for Kobe as the heir to the game; and they also realize he had plenty of opportunity-- they made excuses while he was winning championships a few years back that his team was too good for him to stand out individually. They realize now with the arrival of James and Wade that he was just never good enough.</div> if that were true, there wouldn't even be a debate. I really don't see what your complaining about, i personally believe it's a great comparision, and whether you like it or not, James, Bryant and Wade will be compared to each other for years to come. These are the top 3 players in league. Sometimes, your dislike for Kobe blinds you from thinking liberally.
AIRTIGHT a straight up Kobe Hater. He can deny it all he wants, but he logs in the forum to look for posts to bash Kobe and their fans. This is the game of basketball man. Everyone has their favorites, everyone will make comparisions, and the debates will go on and on. Dont bring your personal vendetta into the forums. Especially the Laker forums. 3/4 of all your posts on Justbball are in here! Why? To bash Bryant and his fans. To create drama and hate on Kobe. Bottomline. Why dont you create your own forum about Kobe hating and stop with all these nonsense posts. You can rant all you want about every other player in the league who is better than Kobe there. I personally am tired of you ressurecting old threads, and posting comments on anything related to Kobe Bryant. This LAKER FORUM was created for fans of basketball to focus on the LOS ANGELES LAKERS team. Not to come in here and bash its players and fanbase.
I told you he is the leader of kobe hater union....At least we won't go to Miami Forum or Cavs Forum saying Kobe is the better player than Wade or Lebron is. I like watching all 3 of them, but my favorite is Kobe. I am sure most ppl here who like Kobe don't hate Lebron and Wade. It is always great to have comparison amoung players. Otherwise, NBA is boring.
Trench: <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Why dont you create your own forum about Kobe hating and stop with all these nonsense posts.</div> ..... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You can rant all you want about every other player in the league who is better than Kobe there.</div> I answered a post a while back similar to this, and I explained that all I do is search and find posts that interest me and go from there-- regardless of what forum it's in; it makes no difference. Trench: <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">This LAKER FORUM was created for fans of basketball to focus on the LOS ANGELES LAKERS team. Not to come in here and bash its players and fanbase</div> The first thread I saw from this site was " Kobe vs MJ" - and it happened to be on the Laker forum. This thread is called " Wade Better Than Kobe" - on the<font color=""Purple""> Laker </font>forum. Why you guys create threads providing "outsiders" opportunity to come in and ----> you say 'bash', I say compare and shutdown your own player is a mystery to me. <font color=""Purple"">You make theses threads and are overjoyed while you guys are leading the arguments/ yet become defensive and upset when you lose them. </font> Don't start these threads would be my suggestion to you. If anyone or any group is on here should be accused of <u>hating</u> it's the Laker fans. I, durvasa, and some other supporters come in these threads with stats, facts, and real life accounts to supplement our claims---- all yall have ever done is post opinion. >>To say that I'm hating on Kobe when I come in and just about <u>prove</u> beyond "reasonable" doubt that he is not comparable to <font color=""Red"">Jordan</font>--- to say I'm a Kobe hater when I come in this thread and point out FACTS that suggest Wade may be better than him is obviously ridiculous on your part.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AIRTIGHT:</div><div class="quote_post">Trench: ..... I answered a post a while back similar to this, and I explained that all I do is search and find posts that interest me and go from there-- regardless of what forum it's in; it makes no difference. Trench: The first thread I saw from this site was " Kobe vs MJ" - and it happened to be on the Laker forum. This thread is called " Wade Better Than Kobe" - on the<font color=""Purple""> Laker </font>forum. Why you guys create threads providing "outsiders" opportunity to come in and ----> you say 'bash', I say compare and shutdown your own player is a mystery to me. <font color=""Purple"">You make theses threads and are overjoyed while you guys are leading the arguments/ yet become defensive and upset when you lose them. </font> Don't start these threads would be my suggestion to you. If anyone or any group is on here should be accused of <u>hating</u> it's the Laker fans. I, durvasa, and some other supporters come in these threads with stats, facts, and real life accounts to supplement our claims---- all yall have ever done is post opinion. >>To say that I'm hating on Kobe when I come in and just about <u>prove</u> beyond "reasonable" doubt that he is not comparable to <font color=""Red"">Jordan</font>--- to say I'm a Kobe hater when I come in this thread and point out FACTS that suggest Wade may be better than him is obviously ridiculous on your part.</div> The person who created the thread was quoting an article, and Brasco is not a fan of Kobe Bryant. This thread was created over a year ago, but you felt obligated to ressurect for the sake are arguing.
wade is not better than kobe? what, hey man facts are facts, Kobe is a great offensive player, does that make him better than Wade? No Wade is a talented boy that have a mental toughness, right now he shows that he is a better leader than Kobe, therefore he is better right now, Kobe never won a championship being the leader, Im not saying kobe could be better, he is a great player but Wade did a great kob in the playoff when his team nedded him the most. kobe is one of the greatest, nobody will discuss you that, better than Michael no way i think as Wade said just one mike, and not for individual numbers in one game, it was the combination of his leadership and offensive skills that got him as the best athlete of an era, Jordan is the greatest Kobe could surpass Jordan individual numbers maybe but his legacy i doubt it, if somebody could do it or is in a better position to surpass his legacy is Wade, sorry I know you all are very fanatics of kobe, kobe is very good, he could do it , but facts are facts and opinions are opinions, what have more weight facts or opinions?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting arelis:</div><div class="quote_post">wade is not better than kobe? what, hey man facts are facts, Kobe is a great offensive player, does that make him better than Wade? No Wade is a talented boy that have a mental toughness, right now he shows that he is a better leader than Kobe, therefore he is better right now, Kobe never won a championship being the leader, Im not saying kobe could be better, he is a great player but Wade did a great kob in the playoff when his team nedded him the most. kobe is one of the greatest, nobody will discuss you that, better than Michael no way i think as Wade said just one mike, and not for individual numbers in one game, it was the combination of his leadership and offensive skills that got him as the best athlete of an era, Jordan is the greatest Kobe could surpass Jordan individual numbers maybe but his legacy i doubt it, if somebody could do it or is in a better position to surpass his legacy is Wade, sorry I know you all are very fanatics of kobe, kobe is very good, he could do it , but facts are facts and opinions are opinions, what have more weight facts or opinions?</div> Wade is the leader of the team??
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">First off, I'm a rocket fan so I HATE putting Tmac second to anybody. But Kobe is BEST PLAYER in the league. There are levels I've seen Kobe elevate his game, that NOBODY simply has gone yet. People putting Wade in Kobe's class aren't being realistic. The Lakers had a bad year, in which everybody blames Kobe for. Terrible coach, terrible system, no chemistry, no balance and absolutley no size at Center. The Lakers had no direction last year. That's not all Kobe's fault. Wade is a rising star. But he AIN'T NO KOBE. He ain't even no Tmac either. Until I see somebody that's hands down better than Kobe, he'll be the best. I think your better off comparing Wade to Lebron, Carmello, and and other young stars.</div> OH MY GOD!!! I HAVE NEVER HEARD A ROCKET FAN WHO LOVES T-MAC SAY THAT. YOU ARE AMAZING!!! (and right)
Also I'm sure Kobe is loving this. Absolutley loving this after he got 81 to say that Wade is better than him. Kobe will want to prove himself.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NBA MAN:</div><div class="quote_post">Also I'm sure Kobe is loving this. Absolutley loving this after he got 81 to say that Wade is better than him. Kobe will want to prove himself.</div> Yeah kobe is proably going to light him up but dwayne will get kobe to.
then who is the leader? give me facts who won the mvp in the finals? who Shaq says was their humble leader? Kobe? no Wade yes facts are facts
Facts are facts, let them speak 81 points wow, a great individual acomplishment, as i said a great offensive player, one great game, right now he ain't better than wade? because he scores 81 point in one game, what is your point please explain yourself because i don't understand
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting arelis:</div><div class="quote_post">then who is the leader? give me facts who won the mvp in the finals? who Shaq says was their humble leader? Kobe? no Wade yes facts are facts</div> Yea, Kobe wasn't the leader of the old Lakers team. Neither is Wade in Miami. Best player isn't always the leader of the team. The team also has many all-stars/former all-stars. Who was the leader of the Spurs before David Robinson retired?? -> David Robinson. Who was the best player in the Spurs? -> Tim Duncan. They got the rings together too.
and who was the leader? please tell me Im waiting the leader is choose by their team mates not by you or me and in miami all of the players have says in public that wade is their leader as when in los angeles won their last three champs Shaq teammates says that Shaq was their leader
