Wallace Diop and Augustine for Miller/Camby

If that's true it seems like the player Cho is trying to get is DJ Augustin.

 

Or, could it be that Cho wants a PG in return if we're shipping out Miller? Augustin is only coming back in that trade because we don't have a legitimate option at PG behind Miller.

 

This was a deal that was probably talked about when Brown was head coach. My guess is that the Bobcats atleast see what they have with a new coach and then make a move to shake things up.

 

Difference being Camby > Blake/Outlaw and Dre > Raef

 

There seems to be a lot of possibilities that could net both team what they are looking for. THis exast trade may or may not be dead, but I bet talks persist.

 

This would be a GREAT trade for the Blazers. Gerald Wallace is awesome! I'd miss Miller and Camby, but this would be a great move for Portland. Cho had better not pass this up.

 

I think we can live with that for a few reasons. Although Miller is most certainly a better PG, he does not work well for a team with Roy. We need to spread the floor, and we need a PG that is pass first. DJ has a decent outside shot and distributes well. DJ is the worse PG, but that drop in talent is somewhat negated by being a better fit.

THis gives Roy a shot to try and come back and produce in a system that is more to his liking. Hopefully, this will raise Roy's value and he can be traded in the offseason.

On D, DJ is worse than Miller, but if he is getting burned too badly, Wes can come in for ROy or DJ, providing some cover. And with SF/PF/C of Batum/Crash/LMA the D on the inside will be pretty good.

This trade is not just for this season, but it gets us something for an aging and soon expiring Camby and Miller. DJ is cheap and although not a great PG, he is young and should be a good backup if the Blazers are ever able to find a PGotF. He can hold down the starting spot for now, and if he does not improve, on his contract he should be easy to move or slide to backup.

I like the trade. NOt perfect, but a slight upgrade for this season and gets us some usable assets for the future.

 

While I never thought this was strictly true, it was a point I could at least understand people making. However, it no longer matters what works well for a team with Roy, because he appears done as an impact or franchise player. His problem is a physical one that is never going to go away (barring a miracle breakthrough in medical science within the next few years). As far as I can tell, his upside at this point is Grant Hill...a former wonderful player who had a few years of almost no value before reinventing his game enough to become a valuable complementary player.

That seems like the best case.

 

That's exactly what I was thinking. This re-tooling to appease Roy never made sense because how is it in this teams best interest to keep building around a broken down shell who's nowhere near the player he once was?

 

I'm not really sold on Augustin being any better than the backups we have now. We could leave him out of the trade and give them Joel instead of Camby, I think I would be more comfortable with that; then still try to trade Batum for a top PG. I just don't see the point of adding a young PG when we have two who may be better than him a year or two down the road; Augustin does not seem to be making progress; it seems Larry Brown had a lot higher opinion of him a few years back than he does today. Before I would make the trade at all, I would want to know why Wallace's production is down this year; is it something fixable, or is there some reasons he would be more effective with us?

 

The Blazers are in a shitty spot. Thier best player is no longer very good, and he is signed to a huge and long contract. No option regarding Roy is really a good option. However, keeping him and hoping for the best is the worst idea because in each of the next 4 seasons his legs will get worse and his contract will become more of a noose around the Blazers neck. I think the Blazers need to take a risk in getting players that will help Roy NOW, so that he can be traded in the offseason.
Right now, his value is total shit. But if the Blazers can up his value, perhaps we can get out ofthe crap contract and build anew. And the players coming back, aside from Diop, should remain tradeable in the future. So even if they are not the right longterm answer, they are the best shot at getting out from under Roy. And if things don't work out, then at least we have some tradable contracts to try a different plan. But losing Camby and Miller in the offseason for nothing will do nothing for the longterm health of the franchise.
And Crash is good, DJ is decent, and Diop's contract will be expiring in the season after the lockout. Not the perfect trade, but acceptable.

 

The deal is fine, whatever. I just wish people would stop comparing Grant Hill and Brandon Roy.

Hill can play full time without limping around a basketball court. He just took FOREVER to get healthy. Brandon will never get healthy without some sort of meniscus transplant. Never.

 

Augustine is a career 40.6% shooter from 3 pt land

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dj_augustin/career_stats.html

 

His 3pt shooting has gone down both years since his rookie year, to only 35% from beyond the arc this season.

Also look at the career numbers for Player A compared to Player B here:
Player A: MPG: 24.1 FG: 41.4% 3PT: 40.6% RPG: 1.8 APG: 3.4 TOV: 1.3 PPG: 9.5 PER: 13.6
Player B: MPG: 25.4 FG: 41.0% 3PT: 39.6% RPG: 2.1 APG: 4.2 TOV: 1.4 PPG: 7.4 PER: 11.9

Ones Augustin, any guesses on the other?

 

bayless?

 

Not Bayless; he's sporting a 15 PER but a 34% 3P%

 

Player B's gotta be Steve Blake. So does that mean DJ Augustin is really a backup-calibre player? His numbers sure seem to suggest that.