<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sir Desmond:</div><div class="quote_post">If the team had such good chemistry with Sheed, then why was he traded? C'mon, surely fans can't have that big an oversight that management would shake up a winning team for no good reason. There are still 30 odd games left this season, and a lot can happen in terms of playoff positions in those 30 games. Portland will be a better team for all of this, no doubt.</div> umm... move to Portland and read the Oregonian and read all the players comments. Rasheed was traded because... They did not know if he would be back next year & they wanted to get something out of him if he did decide to lead. Even Paul Allen said it was hard to trade someone who has been so instrumental in the "Success" of the Portland Trail Blazers. Also maby you should read what the president of the Blazers said: <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The community has been very clear in their message and we are listening. As we pledged to our fans and customers back in August, we want to build a competitive team on the court and one in which the fans can also be proud of off the court. Today?s trade is a reflection of that commitment</div> Basicly they wanted the fans to be happy which half of Portland is and Half of Portland Ins't. The thing everyone is not looking at is how well will they fit into the Blazers. Everyone is just looking at statitics!
Paul Allen knows nothing, for starters hiring Bob Whitsitt, to me he is the dumbest ******* ever...... look at him passing down on MJ (That would had won them a lot of rings in the 90s) and trading B Grant and Jermaine before he even hits his prime and now Jermaine is off to another team doing good
Well he didnt know Trader Bob would be a dumbass... lol They should of hired Clyde for the GM of the Blazers someone who has wore a Blazer jersey someone who has tons of respect in Portland.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know what I'm talking about? You seriously think on paper the Blazers aren't better off?</div> On paper the Lakers should be dominating. Screw on paper arguments. Many teams should have been better than they were, based on paper arguments, but teams like the Clippers just don't know how to win. That type of argument doesn't prove anything. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I managed to catch the game last night, Ratiff was a beast on defense, blocking shots left right and center. Shareef was attacking the basket, rebounding and hitting the long jumpers.</div> Every player tries to be impressive in their first game with a new team. Besides, you "caught last night's game," and have now concluded that the trade was for the best? That is not a fair assessment on any level, especially since they didn't even win that game! <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Their playoff chances are high with these two players added, they still might not make it but It should be a better chance to get there.</div> How do you figure? The Blazers have made the playoffs for 21 straight years (and obviously every year that Sheed has been on the team). How is he the reason that we might not make it? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Fact is Rasheed Wallace is a good talent but is a guy who has never lived up to expections.</div> Kinda like Derrick Coleman, who has still had some excellent years and helped his team.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">On paper the Lakers should be dominating. Screw on paper arguments. Many teams should have been better than they were, based on paper arguments, but teams like the Clippers just don't know how to win. That type of argument doesn't prove anything. </div> put it this way If Blazers can't win with this trade it purely means they are a bad team that will refuse to play togeather. They added two good players for one, therefore should mean better production. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Every player tries to be impressive in their first game with a new team. Besides, you "caught last night's game," and have now concluded that the trade was for the best? That is not a fair assessment on any level, especially since they didn't even win that game! </div> Shareef and Ratliff played like they have all season, so there is no point bringing up the "players always try hard to impress in their first games" <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">How do you figure? The Blazers have made the playoffs for 21 straight years (and obviously every year that Sheed has been on the team). How is he the reason that we might not make it? </div> Just look at your record, you aren't even a 500 team this season with Rasheed. You team has looked in a bad state all year, Sheed's always been known as a trouble maker and a guy who refuses to keep his attuide in check...He wanted out, If you let him walk in the off-season you would be lottery bound,It was just time for Wallace to go. Reef and Ratliff are both good players and Ratliff being a defensive force. You got way more than you deserved. Oh and I'm not saying having Rasheed is why you will not make it, I'm simply stating you need more than just what you had before to get to the post season, you add in a good scorer in SAR and a guy who can play defense and rebound to replace him. It gives you a better chance to win. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Kinda like Derrick Coleman, who has still had some excellent years and helped his team.</div> Doesn't change the fact he has been a big dissapointment, It's amazing how all we hear from Portland fans "trade Rasheed" "Sheed's a cancer" "He's all about the cash,get his ass out of here for someone useful" Now we have some fans acting like he is the utimate superstar.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">put it this way If Blazers can't win with this trade it purely means they are a bad team that will refuse to play togeather. They added two good players for one, therefore should mean better production.</div> How do you figure? You think that when a trade is made the players are supposed to automatically gel and have chemistry. What planet are you on? Trades are always difficult, especially when you are getting players from the opposite conference. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Shareef and Ratliff played like they have all season, so there is no point bringing up the "players always try hard to impress in their first games"</div> LOL. That isn't what you said though, now you are changing your argument. You were basing it on the fact that you watched a single game . Every player has a great game during their career. I'm not saying the reef and Ratliff haven't been consistant, but that isn't what you were arguing. Besides, how can you compare one game to the 7 1/2 years that Sheed was successful in Portland? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Just look at your record, you aren't even a 500 team this season with Rasheed. You team has looked in a bad state all year, Sheed's always been known as a trouble maker and a guy who refuses to keep his attuide in check...He wanted out, If you let him walk in the off-season you would be lottery bound,It was just time for Wallace to go. Reef and Ratliff are both good players and Ratliff being a defensive force. You got way more than you deserved. </div> So you are blaming our record on Sheed. Have you noticed that we lack a sg because we lost Bonzi? And no, DA is not at 100% so don't even bring that up. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Doesn't change the fact he has been a big dissapointment, It's amazing how all we hear from Portland fans "trade Rasheed" "Sheed's a cancer" "He's all about the cash,get his ass out of here for someone useful" Now we have some fans acting like he is the utimate superstar. </div> Now you are talking out of your ass, because I have never said anything like that. If you read the oregonian (or any article by someone like Jason Quick or Bill Walton) of course you are going to hear negativity. But if you ask a REAL Blazer fan they will tell you that they are not happy with this trade. No real fan sits around making fun of their team all day. Find a new source of info whos name isn't Bill Walton.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">How do you figure? You think that when a trade is made the players are supposed to automatically gel and have chemistry. What planet are you on? Trades are always difficult, especially when you are getting players from the opposite conference. </div> Any time a trade is made you can only look at it from on paper side of things (straight away). Which is all you can do at this stage, and on paper the Blazers made out well. They get a guy who can score,rebound and hit the 15-18 foot jumpers with good success, a good defensive player who is the leading shot blocker in the NBA. Rasheed is a good player but the Blazers got two other good players for the price of one <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">LOL. That isn't what you said though, now you are changing your argument. You were basing it on the fact that you watched a single game . Every player has a great game during their career. I'm not saying the reef and Ratliff haven't been consistant, but that isn't what you were arguing. Besides, how can you compare one game to the 7 1/2 years that Sheed was successful in Portland? </div> My point hasn't changed since the trade was made. First thought the Blazers got the best possible deal and the right one which fits both needs. The players first game was impressive but It's no difference from what they have been doing all season. Rasheed was successful in Portland for 7 years of course, however times have changed, Blazers roster has changed, other teams have improved. Both parties needed a change in direction. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">So you are blaming our record on Sheed. Have you noticed that we lack a sg because we lost Bonzi? And no, DA is not at 100% so don't even bring that up. </div> No I'm not blaming the Blazers record on Sheed, It's not his fault the Blazers have struggled. Nash has made moves that he feels suits the Blazers for the future, I can't say I completely agree with trading Bonzi Wells but at the time he was having trouble with Cheeks and seemed like a good move for the future. My point is they needed to get rid of Sheed to add in players to make them a better team. I don't see how adding in two extra good players makes them worse. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Now you are talking out of your ass, because I have never said anything like that. If you read the oregonian (or any article by someone like Jason Quick or Bill Walton) of course you are going to hear negativity. But if you ask a REAL Blazer fan they will tell you that they are not happy with this trade. No real fan sits around making fun of their team all day. Find a new source of info whos name isn't Bill Walton.</div> What makes you think I was directing my post at you? I have talked to many Portland fans on the internet and guys who I know personally, they have wanting to get rid of Wallace for quite a while. Feeling a new change of direction was needed, to move forward they felt he had to go. Teams are still high on Sheed purely because of his talent and his contract. Which is why you managed to get two pretty good players for Rasheed.
