Warriors acquire Zarko Cabarkapa for two future 2nd round draft picks

However, I have to say this trade does leave a bad taste, not because I find bad aspect of the trade, but because why Suns made the trade. Cabarkaba is not a washed up first rounder, and in normal situation, he would never be traded for couple of 2nd rounders. But, Suns just gave him and his less than 1.5 mils salary this and next year away, because they need to sign Joe Johnson this year and Stoudmire probably in 1-2 years. Suns' overall payroll is 43 mils, 11 mils less than our payroll, and their bench is probably the least productive group in NBA, despite Suns are the top scoring team in the NBA. Yet, that didn't stop Suns from trading one of their bench player for nothing. Our current payroll is 54 mils, and we also have Dunleavy and Pietrus to resign in the future, and this kind of trade reconfirms me that trading Fisher or Foyle is only a pipe dream of fans, and makes me wonder what kind of effect their contracts will have in near future...

 

The Fisher signing I hate because he is only a PG which we had 3-4 with already. The worst thing about it is how old he is and how long the contract is for. I mean how many effective years will this guy really have left? The Foyle contract had to be made. We really had no centers if we did not re-sign Foyle and who were our other options? We all thought Foyle would step up into a starting role. I mean the guy had 3 blocks last night in how many minutes? Imagine what he could do if he played more minutes...

 

Maybe that Fisher money will be some sort of bait for his return to the Lakers. Dunleavy and Derek for Odom and I dunno...someone else?

 

Or maybe not Dunleavy. Lakes need a big man right? Davis? Sorry, I don't know the salary match ups and what not. All I remember is my family telling me that Fisher was hanging out with the Lakers during their Christmas day game. I thought right there, "he wants back".

 

The Fisher contract was disheartening when I heard about it, but I really doubt Mullin signed him with the intention of keeping him around for the duration. Fisher was a veteran on several championship teams, perhaps that's enough to entice one of at least a couple of teams in contention that need a veteran point guard.

There's enough bad contracts in the NBA and enough pressure in some markets for a team to feel the need to trade for an experienced guard like Fischer, the Warriors should be able to find at least one team with some decent talent, expiring contracts and/or draft picks, if not young (developable) talent. At least that's what I'm hoping, the final years on Fisher's contract are just horrible.

 

Look for the Warriors to unload Dale Davis and/or Cliffy for some talent before the deadline because otherwise they walk away at the end of the season and their cap space is useless.

Cap space is irrelevant with respect to existing players, except for 2nd round picks who become unrestricted free agents with no "Larry Bird" rights. Therefore, it does not matter what the cap is when Dunleavy and Pietrus come up for new contracts.

 

I would look into acquiring Ron Artest from the Pacers. His stock is not as high as it once was, and the Pacers will be looking to make a run at the Playoffs. I don't know how realistic this deal is though and it would create a bit of a logjam, even though Im sure we would have to give up Dunleavy or Pietrus in the deal, which im hesistant of doing.

 

I would take Ron Artest. He's an allstar player. He may be a psycho and take a lot of bad shots, but he brings intimidation to the court and he's the league's toughest all around defender. If he screws up again, the league may just kick him out. The bottom line is he'd still have value to us and the league no matter what because there will be plenty of teams thinking they can tame him if he gives to them what Rasheed Wallace did for the Pistons. I think we'd have more leverage based on the fact Artest still has a number of years on his contract whereas Sheed's was expiring. He can be a distraction, but maybe Foyle and Fisher will calm him down. Who knows.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">Wow, nice trade. I remember that Saint really wanted this kid in draft day, and actually thought about drafting him with 11th. And, two second rounders are not significant anyway. We do have Murphy and Biedrins to develop, but I hope we can fit him somehow as well...</div>
Are we talking Dunleavy part 2, or a totally different player? I'm just confused because I heard Cabarkapa is one of these athletic 6'11 players that should really be playing small forward because of their soft play, face the basket style of scoring, only they're too slow to guard an nba small forward. We'll see what happens, he's got a nice wingspan and he could be a good shotblocker in the mold of Jonathan Bender: Mullin's original target for 7 foot big man that can dribble and shoot and block shots at multiple positions.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting goldenstatefan:</div><div class="quote_post">The Fisher contract was disheartening when I heard about it, but I really doubt Mullin signed him with the intention of keeping him around for the duration. Fisher was a veteran on several championship teams, perhaps that's enough to entice one of at least a couple of teams in contention that need a veteran point guard.

There's enough bad contracts in the NBA and enough pressure in some markets for a team to feel the need to trade for an experienced guard like Fischer, the Warriors should be able to find at least one team with some decent talent, expiring contracts and/or draft picks, if not young (developable) talent. At least that's what I'm hoping, the final years on Fisher's contract are just horrible.</div>

Ok. If Mullin actually believe that he can use earlier part of Fisher contract and he can trade later part of the contract, he is a bigger fool than I thought. Because his later contract is just horrible (nearly 7 mils in later 3 years), and it's as hard to trade him now as later.

First, let's measure Fisher's 'trade value'. We overbid Houston and Seattle to get Fisher. In other word, even for Houston, who has Ward, career backup PG, and Sura, who's really a SG, didn't think Fisher is worth what we are paying for. And, it's not like Fisher suddenly improve his career in here. To make the situation worse, Fisher has 6 years contract remaining, 29 years old and getting older by the nature. If there is no financian restrictions, such as caproom or luxury tax, there may be a team or two, that will think about taking Fisher's contract. But, there is financial restrictions for every team. So at this point, best scenario for Fisher's trade is by accepting similar contract in return, and that doesn't improve our financial situation at all. Also, just reflect our last trade. Suns just gave away rather promising rookie, so that they can shed his 1.5 mils contract for 2 years. There is no single team in NBA, which will exchange expiring contract for Fisher's 6 years one, and if they do, we have to package some serious draft picks to do so. So, there is no team in NBA, which will exchange In other word, consider Fisher untradable for quite some time...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting goldenstatefan:</div><div class="quote_post">The Fisher contract was disheartening when I heard about it, but I really doubt Mullin signed him with the intention of keeping him around for the duration. Fisher was a veteran on several championship teams, perhaps that's enough to entice one of at least a couple of teams in contention that need a veteran point guard.

There's enough bad contracts in the NBA and enough pressure in some markets for a team to feel the need to trade for an experienced guard like Fischer, the Warriors should be able to find at least one team with some decent talent, expiring contracts and/or draft picks, if not young (developable) talent. At least that's what I'm hoping, the final years on Fisher's contract are just horrible.</div>

Ok. If Mullin actually believe that he can use earlier part of Fisher contract and he can trade later part of the contract, he is a bigger fool than I thought. Because his later contract is just horrible (nearly 7 mils in later 3 years), and it's as hard to trade him now as later.

First, let's measure Fisher's 'trade value'. We overbid Houston and Seattle to get Fisher. In other word, even for Houston, who has Ward, career backup PG, and Sura, who's really a SG, didn't think Fisher is worth what we are paying for. And, it's not like Fisher suddenly improve his career in here. To make the situation worse, Fisher has 6 years contract remaining, 29 years old and getting older by the nature. If there is no financian restrictions, such as caproom or luxury tax, there may be a team or two, that will think about taking Fisher's contract. But, there is financial restrictions for every team. So at this point, best scenario for Fisher's trade is by accepting similar contract in return, and that doesn't improve our financial situation at all. Also, just reflect our last trade. Suns just gave away rather promising rookie, so that they can shed his 1.5 mils contract for 2 years. There is no single team in NBA, which will exchange expiring contract for Fisher's 6 years one, and if they do, we have to package some serious draft picks to do so. Even if we assume that we have zero PG, do you want to accept Fisher and his 6 years/6 mils contract? In other word, consider Fisher untradable for quite some time...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting philsmith75:</div><div class="quote_post">Look for the Warriors to unload Dale Davis and/or Cliffy for some talent before the deadline because otherwise they walk away at the end of the season and their cap space is useless.

Cap space is irrelevant with respect to existing players, except for 2nd round picks who become unrestricted free agents with no "Larry Bird" rights. Therefore, it does not matter what the cap is when Dunleavy and Pietrus come up for new contracts.</div>

I just don't see us trading Davis, simply because we can't.

Forget caproom. The moment Mullin gave extensions to Richardson and Murphy alone ended any chance of us getting caproom. It's luxury tax we are talking about.

Although there is no hard cap for basketball, every team has set number of amount the owner is willing to spend like baseball. Usually most of owners draw a line at luxury tax line, and I don't see that Cohan will be an exception for that. He didn't when Saint was under, and I don't see suddenly Cohan will open up the bank. So, in order for Mullin to meet that line, he simply cannot afford trading Davis for another year of salary.

Technically, we can sign Dunleavy, Pietrus, Speedy and any players with bird right. But then, technically, A's can also sign big 3s, every FAs they let go over years, and every single FAs that exists. Owners always draw the line at some point, and it's naive to think that just because they can do it, that means they will do it. While it's impossible for us to know actual financial line for Cohan, it's not hard to guess where he may draw the line. And, according to that guess, there simply is no way for us to trade Davis...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Are we talking Dunleavy part 2, or a totally different player? I'm just confused because I heard Cabarkapa is one of these athletic 6'11 players that should really be playing small forward because of their soft play, face the basket style of scoring, only they're too slow to guard an nba small forward. We'll see what happens, he's got a nice wingspan and he could be a good shotblocker in the mold of Jonathan Bender: Mullin's original target for 7 foot big man that can dribble and shoot and block shots at multiple positions.</div>

Mmm... I don't think he is too different from Dunleavy. Sounds like he was more aggressive than Dunleavy, until Fortson broke his wrist though. Also, it seems like Saint was more in love with Pietrus and Mullin was in love with Chbarkapa at the draft day. I don't know why Mullin has a fetish of players, who has basketball skills, unathletic, and character players, and I really want him to change his philosophy, because any team will not survive without athlaticism. But, I do wish Chbarkapa can regain his rookie form and flourish in this club...

 

From my point of view i think that it will be gret motivation boost for my man Biedrins, who is already activated from injury ilst, since GSW have problems J-Rich, Davis, Nahera and Sesey. What I don't understand is that Mullin and Montgomery said that Biedrins is not ready to play because he needs to gain more weight, but Chbarkapa is even lighter then him by some 15 punds. Maybe he has good strenght or something....

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hipokrat_x(LV):</div><div class="quote_post">From my point of view i think that it will be gret motivation boost for my man Biedrins, who is already activated from injury ilst, since GSW have problems J-Rich, Davis, Nahera and Sesey. What I don't understand is that Mullin and Montgomery said that Biedrins is not ready to play because he needs to gain more weight, but Chbarkapa is even lighter then him by some 15 punds. Maybe he has good strenght or something....</div>
Difference is that Zarko is 23 year old playing as 3/4, Biedrins is 18 playing as 4/5.

 

Cabarkapa is somewhere between dunleavy and skita (denver ). a Tall guy who is a perimeter guy. He has good handles and skills similar to nowitzki... when he first got to the league..... i dont see him playing anything but the 3 for the warriors ....

with the moves of najera and davis to the IR and finally Biedrins activated it looks like Mullins is gearing up here for a big trade.

With the play of rahim/miles..... it looks like Randolph might be available..... i would love to see a package of davis, dunleavy, fisher, robinson najera.... any combination of these and in return get zach randolph and damon stoudamire (his contract is up at the end of the season)...portland might be interested in the expiring contracts of davis and robinson, and fish could be a good tutor for telfair. with the addition of cabarkapa and MP we are ok at the 3 so the headache that is dunleavy might be a piece the blazers could use. Whatever it takes. a one two punch of murph and randolph wow what an inside outside game, coupled with MP and Jrich..... would be a tough team..


opinions?

something is in the works.... wonder what

 

I wouldn't expect Zarko to make any immediate impact at any position besides the 3. While he could possibly learn to play some 4, everything I hear about him now is that he is afraid of contact around the rim, so he doesn't sound like the kind of interior rebounding/defense we need and he's certainly not the weak side shot blocker that we lack when Foyle is off the floor.

On a somewhat unrelated note, since the trade and Sesay release, the W's roster has become very interesting. With our two SGs injured and no more Sesay, we are essentially left with a Cheaney + Fisher combo at the 2, which probably represents the worst 2 spot in NBA history.

Hopefully Fish will be able to find more of a groove away from the point. The guy can hit open shots, we've all seen him do it. That's not an ability that players frequently lose, so hopefully he can get it back, because with our scorers depleted we need a guy who can hit his open shots consistantly.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting boogielew:</div><div class="quote_post">

...i would love to see a package of davis, dunleavy, fisher, robinson najera.... any combination of these and in return get zach randolph and damon stoudamire (his contract is up at the end of the season)...portland might be interested in the expiring contracts of davis and robinson.. </div>

I dont understand if that was the case why didn't we do that when we traded NVE to Portland for Davis?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">The Fisher signing I hate because he is only a PG which we had 3-4 with already. The worst thing about it is how old he is and how long the contract is for. I mean how many effective years will this guy really have left? The Foyle contract had to be made. We really had no centers if we did not re-sign Foyle and who were our other options? We all thought Foyle would step up into a starting role. I mean the guy had 3 blocks last night in how many minutes? Imagine what he could do if he played more minutes...</div>

The blocks are good and I dont care how amny he scores. Anytime he scores is a bonus. He needs to reound better. He sucks at rebounding, which is something they need. Someone to securethe defensive boards

 

I agree, I can't remember the countless times his bum knees failed him to land a defensive rebound and he ends up batting/swatting the ball to the other team for the 2nd chance points. None of our centers 6'10 or under right now can jump over a can of soda. Maybe Cliff can... the rest I don't know.