Warriors at New York - Nov 6, 2004 10:00 am FSN

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  1. BDiddyJRich

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    Nice f'ing D.

    Baron scared me on that fastbreak, could have been costly.

    Nice win.
     
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    These FT's are really pissing me off.

    They win, but c'mon 15/32 on FT's?!?!? That is a joke. Shaq could do better.
     
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    Well, good new is that we won. We also shot better at the line than 3 pts... barely... Missed 17 fts...

    When the game matters, Davis and Richardson did all the job.

    When Davis drive or not makes a world of difference for this club.

    If Dunleavy has intangibility that doesn't show up in stats, it must be invisibility.

    Still got outrebounded by 11, but it wasn't seem to be that much of problem.

    Taft was impressive once again...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting BDiddyJRich:</div><div class="quote_post">These FT's are really pissing me off.

    They win, but c'mon 15/32 on FT's?!?!? That is a joke. Shaq could do better.</div>

    Shaq is suck in free throw. you mean yao ming right.
     
  5. Run BJM

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    Ugly game, but we got the win. I'm glad to see that Baron didnt get injured any further, he was the best player on our team playing at 60%. We really need to do something about those free throws, we are making the games harder than they should be.
     
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    Yeah, it was the game that we have no business of winning, but I will take it anyway. At least, at the end, we made necessary stops and clutch shots. Brown seem to have awful a lot of works to do...
     
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    The daily Barnett quote on Dunleavy, "He seems to always be a step ahead when making decisions on the floor". That after Dunleavy made his one nice pass of the entire game. What's up with Dun!!! If he gives us any offense at all, we win going away.
     
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    You very smart guy Kwan. you from bay area? Do you like anime? I agree that Brown have awful lot of works to do! maybe they need someone like Yao a true ceneter!
     
  9. Mr. J

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting REREM:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm sure glad I'm not a Knicks fan. They had a great draft,added a Champion coach,got Curry dirt cheap,and still don't look good. Despite having near 600lb of inside meat with James,Curry,it's much easier to penetrate on these guys than against Utah. Marbury? eh,overpaid and overrated. Crawford? Did zero,makes more $ than Fish.</div>
    Let's remember the Knicks are still a work in progress. Whether or not Larry Brown gets them to make the playoffs this year or not, doesn't make him any less of a coach. When he first took over Philadelphia, they didn't make the playoffs. But the next year they did and soon they went to the finals. Also, they're playing pretty good teams and have a hard beginning schedule.

    And what do you mean they got Curry dirt cheap? They gave up their 9th overall pick in 2003 for him. Sweetney doesn't have as much potential as Curry, but he is a very hard working kid who currently averages 12/4.5/1.0 in only 22 minutes of play. He also when given minutes gives you a solid double-double. We also gave up a first round pick, and a pair of second rounders. How is that cheap?

    Marbury despite being "overpaid" and "overrated" gives you 20 points and 8 assists every night. He's also trying to mesh with a whole bunch of different players in his 2 and a half years with the team. Geez, cut him some slack. Brown demands a lot from his point guards and three games is definitely not enough time to thoroughly master Brown's system.

    Jamal Crawford was only here for one year and was brought in for his potential and to fill in the Knicks current sixth man hole. He, just like most of Browns players over the years, is struggling in the beginning. The difference between him and fisher is Crawford is currently 25 getting a big contract and Fisher is 32 getting a big contract. Absolutely no comparison.
     
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    Ugly win, but a win. I could not find this game on Sirius at all!
     
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    Very ugly win... but a win is a win. FT's and Dunleavy are pissing me off.
     
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    Anyone actually watched the game? How did Murphy and Richardson do on the defensive end?
     
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    richardson was GOOD he blocks hecka shots now. Murphy wasnt as good keep getting owned by curry or was that taft.
     
  15. Run BJM

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting openglfx:</div><div class="quote_post">Anyone actually watched the game? How did Murphy and Richardson do on the defensive end?</div>
    I didnt really notice Murphy's defense because he was always matched up with the easier defensive assignment while Foyle and Taft take the better low post threat. I guess he did alright on whoever he had. Richardson did well today, I cant remember any time where he got beat. He looks to be putting alot more effort into his defense this year, he is averaging well over a block a game (1.66 if my math is correct) which is impressive. Both look to be improving how much effort they put in on defense and the whole team's defense has improved, either that or the last few teams we played were having very bad offensive nights.
     
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    The whole team is playing better defensively. Dungleavins' defense is pretty good so far.

    I think the knicks will learn that they like us are better in the open court. They have some athletic type of players who haven't done so great in the half court. Marbury, Crawford, Q, Ariza, Frye, Nate, Barnes, even Lee can run. Curry can even run a little bit. Larry Brown has always been a half court type of coach, these guys need Paul Westhead, or Doug Moe.
     
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    Other than Murphy's bad weakside defense, he's been producing good numbers in the past few games. I'd say he's earning a good amount of his paycheck. Wish I could say the same for Dunleavy. I'll never understand why they won't give Pietrus more minutes. He was 2 of 2 (one a 3pt), and they leave Dunleavy in when he's not having a good night? One of the great mysteries...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">Other than Murphy's bad weakside defense, he's been producing good numbers in the past few games. I'd say he's earning a good amount of his paycheck. Wish I could say the same for Dunleavy. I'll never understand why they won't give Pietrus more minutes. He was 2 of 2 (one a 3pt), and they leave Dunleavy in when he's not having a good night? One of the great mysteries...</div>
    Foyle got 11 boards and 2 blocks today in 26 minutes. Once again makes good use of his minutes (after the 2 quick fouls in the 1st Q of course). I really want him to play more, small ball isnt that effective for us if we cant get rebounds. When Dunleavy or Zarko is at the 4 with Murphy at the 5 we get raped on the boards, anyone remember that posession today where the Knicks got at least 4 offensive boards in a row? Foyle has been very good at rebounding and blocking this season in very limited minutes. Maybe he isnt healthy enough to play big minutes yet but hes averaging 8 boards and 2.66 blocks in 21 minutes this season.

    And I agree, Pietrus needs more minutes. Especially with Dunleavy in a slump. It'd be nice to have Dun as a 6th man. Defense is better suited for the starting lineup and all around offensive players are better for coming off the bench.
     
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    Foyles been productive except for offense, but we can make up for that with our other players.

    Here's a image from Yahoo:

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    Marbury can't guard a 60% Davis [​IMG] Looks like Marbury is thinking "OH SH!T!"
     
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    Yeah, Foyle played very well today. As much as Taft played well, Foyle was clearly better post up defender against NY forwards/centers. Maybe, it's a match up thing, because if other teams goes small, it's hard for us to put Foyle, because he doesn't have any offense and he can't defend smaller forward, who goes out and shoot jumper.

    Dunleavy averaged 8.7 pts, shooting 30% and 23% from 3 pts. Yet he averaged 35 mins. Pietrus averaged 11 pts, shooting 65% and 40% from 3 pts. He only averaged 22 mins and is a better defender then Dunleavy. I guess Monty played Dunleavy because he is a starter. But, if this slump goes long, I expect Pietrus to play more. Anyway, it is definitely not a good way to start, especailly after getting a big fat extension...
     

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