<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Duckmyster:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm very happy with the win but I can't figure the Warriors anymore. The losses against the Wizards and Pacers are just unbelieveble and then the turn around with wins like tonight without Baron? I'm not trying to look to much into it but maybe the Warriors seem to play better when they have a us angainst the Worls attitude. The Warriors were favor to make the playoffs and it seem that the players thought that it was just a formality to play the games but it looks that the more adversity the better the Warriors play. I'm just glad that it is still early february and there is still hope.</div> I don't want to dominate the bball discussion here, but I think the whole Jekyl/Hyde thing with the Warriors is that sometimes they play 5 on 5 ball, sometimes they play 1 on 5. The chemistry and attitude is really weird sometimes and maybe a lot of that has to do with everyone deferring to Baron way too much. Also Baron can be as volatile as Stevie Francis when it comes to dominating the ball and going against the coach's wishes. When Baron shoots less and concentrates on making others better, the Warriors usually win. The rest of the players have to do their part and get open. How does Baron know where his guys are going to be? Well, over time he'll know his teammates' habits and tendencies. Also, it helps to call a play before dicing up the defenders. In a half court set, Baron is okay with manufacturing his own offense, but Baron's real asset is he'll find the open guy in transition and put the pass right on the money. So in a half court set, if a player is moving to an open spot on the floor and has lost his defender around a screen or going backdoor and Baron called the play, Baron or a secondary distributor should know which options on the floor to hit. A play set would produce at least a few guys as scoring options like in a football play, with the opportunity to be creative if there's an overplay or wide open path to the basket. If we can get wide open dunks out of out of bounds plays, the Warriors will be money if they grasp the team concept of play sets.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">In a half court set, Baron is okay with manufacturing his own offense, but Baron's real asset is he'll find the open guy in transition and put the pass right on the money. So in a half court set, if a player is moving to an open spot on the floor and has lost his defender around a screen or going backdoor and Baron called the play, Baron or a secondary distributor should know which options on the floor to hit.</div> This supports my theory in the other game thread, please comment on it. I'd like to know your thoughts.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">This supports my theory in the other game thread, please comment on it. I'd like to know your thoughts.</div> I sort of did, but I left it open to discussion because I'm posting more than I should. Let's just say the best point guards in the league like to push (Kidd, Nash, etc), but that shouldn't stop them from being comfortable as playmakers in a half court set. If they know where their guys are going to be, and they devise a way to get people open like they were moving in transition, the Warriors will find it easy to score. Also, if the Warriors are running a certain play the opposing team can't respond well to, it's another weapon for us. A good play will give us a mismatch in our favor or leave two possible scorers against one lone defender because they actually took some defenders out of the play or hung them up somewhere. The Warriors then could slow it down during the final moments where they need to use up clock. They would basically control the tempo, bolster that production on scoring while slowing the other team down with defense. Right now I think the Warriors just have to develop the chemistry, learn the right way to play (as Larry Brown put it), and also get the right personnel for the job.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">I sort of did, but I left it open to discussion because I'm posting more than I should.</div> Dude, Custodian, we're glad you post as much as you do -- your posts are insightful, well-meant, and passionate. And humorous sometimes, which is nice. Seriously, I don't see how anyone could complain about too many good posts. If you were trolling, that'd be different. But frankly I look forward to reading what you have to say.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post">Dude, Custodian, we're glad you post as much as you do -- your posts are insightful, well-meant, and passionate. And humorous sometimes, which is nice. Seriously, I don't see how anyone could complain about too many good posts. If you were trolling, that'd be different. But frankly I look forward to reading what you have to say.</div> Thanks, man. I love reading all the Warrior fan comments here, especially yours, AlleyOop. If things go as you predicted this month and if the Warriors can pick up their play and go on a run for the remaining 30-40 something games, we could possibly get a 7th or 8th seed. It's always the halfway point of the season that has the Warriors playing their best ball so maybe the chemistry will pick up and they'll start where they left off from last year. It's often difficult to play 82 games a year with an uptempo game based on threes and little defense. We can still win though. The problem is a lot of teams in our conference got a lot better this season, they've figured out how to play us, but teams like the Lakers/New Orleans/Utah could sink because they're not too deep in the size department. We're only 2 and half games out of 8th seed and playing okay despite missing some key players (yeah we lost by a few points in some games, better than losing in a blowout). I'm suprised about some W's fans on other sites thinking the season is done and using last year's play as measuring stick for an 82 game season. That's just not good judgement. People forget the major component from last year was Dunleavy's stellar play and Zarko being part of the regular lineup and we played zero defense and shot even more threes than this year. Things are different this year and for whatever reason certain players are struggling and certain players have taken a step back and we're settling way too much for the one-pass made three. Warriors need to learn sooner or later how to play certain teams, make smart decisions, and control the tempo so they can win at both ends of the floor.
I think early in the season the most glaring weakness was Dunleavy, especially after Pietrus went down. And also Foyle. But I think now the problem is Davis and he's playing too selfish too much like Marbury and Francis type PG , which is one of the worst type of PGs to have. Dunleavy is playing decent now and they have Pietrus back too. So SF pos isn't that weak anymore. Biedrins has stepped out and diminishes the importances of Foyle or should I say covers for Foyle's terrible play. Makes the center pos less of a weakness. Still not sold on Murphy, but I like his attitude and style of play the last week or two. I think if Baron can start sharing the ball, they will win more games. He shouldn't be taking 18+ shots a game. It should be more like 10-12. --- Aside from that, Great Win tonight. I'd like to see the warriors play sans Davis for a few games. See if it is a fluke or if it's just that they have the Cav's number. And let's face it the Cavs aren't that great with Hughes in the lineup.
I don't mind Baron's style of play, just the amount of 3's he shoots. He averages 6.4/16.5 FG. Subtract his 3's 1.9/6.2 from his FG and he becomes a 43.69%FG shooter. Who do we blame? Baron or Monty for not limiting the threes?
Finally we played some real ball, jesus. Fisher did good which was amazing. Maybe he feels he needs to get as many shots off coming off the bench but he played smart last night. Beans/Montay/Ike all showed glimpses into the future. Dunleavy was pretty solid and JRich really started clicking in his own near the end of the game. Foyle was awful. Gave up rebounds, couldn't catch, let Ilgauskas get to any spot he wanted to, unnecessary 3 point plays. Some guy of waivers could do a better job then him. Seriously get this guy outta here.
Yeah, if Beans stayed out of foul trouble. He'd have been a starter already. Actually, knowing Monty it'll take forever for a lineup change.
