Warriors vs. Clippers Nov. 20 FSN 12:30 PM

56% shooting for the clippers

 

down to ten Warriors on a mini run

 

Finally Monty woke up and is starting to post up B-Diddy

 

Our bench is not doing jack either. None of them are in double figures...

I mean Foyle has more points than any of our bench players. That is pathetic...

 

Poor execution down the stretch. We suck.

Brand for MVP...give me a break...

 

Elton Brand is a MONSTER.

 

Well Sirius did not even carry this game! That sucks. Oh well, sounds like it was not much to listen to. Is this the most points scored on our team so far this season?

Live and Die by the 3pter...

 

Not too bad a loss really, shot under 40%, jacked up a million three's and didnt' hit many, and the Clips were hot. Time to eyeball the Clipper's/Warrior's game in Oakland.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting openglfx:</div><div class="quote_post"> Time to eyeball the Clipper's/Warrior's game in Oakland.</div>



"eyeballin"



What a disappointment. The only teams we have beat so far are losing teams...

 

Lately it's been die by the 3 pt

If only they played like they did last year by out scoring the other team... produced better results

 

I think the Warriors need to figure out a way to bust through that zone.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting openglfx:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the Warriors need to figure out a way to bust through that zone.</div>

On a good note, the Warriors shot 20-21 from the FT line...

 

I was at the game am I'm so tired of the W's throwing up the 3's. I was hoping to see their new look defense but they left it up north.
It seemed that AB was picking up fouls every minute or so and Zarko seems like an end of the bench player. I thought he could be a Brian Cardinal type player but I guess not. He's fine when they run but in the half court he is terrible.
There were a few of us W's fans yelling for Fish to stop throwing up the threes and to pass it instead of being the black hole. At the time Fish made a couple in a row and some Clips fans yelled he just made it. I yelled back he would shoot the W's right out of the game and that was just part of it. They still love him in LA.
Brand is the man and the W's did not have an answer for him. If Ike can be a similar type of player then the W's have something.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">On a good note, the Warriors shot 20-21 from the FT line...</div>

Unfortunately, the Clips got about 15 more shots at the line than we did. Monty gotta force those guys to bang it inside man. Still, luck was not on our side and BD was not healthy. They banged it inside quite a few times, but for some reason the ball just never goes down.

 

You guys have to remember, the clippers have quite an underrated backcourt that can get the ball to other people (more unselfish than they seem) and some forwards that are very physical type players. When our backcourt can't match the sort of production the clipper forwards are producing at the line and getting inside the paint, well... it's a loss for us because we can't set the tone in all quarters. Our forwards played pretty decent today, but Brand and Maggette just outclass anything we have in terms of getting the ball inside and nailing the touch foul. Our forwards aren't that soft, but at the same time they're not physical or mobile enough to take it inside or draw contact on most games and shoot 50% or high 40's and at least 80% from the stripe. In some instances neither Foyle nor Murphy could contain Brand so they put Baron Davis to defend him twice on purpose! (man I wish we had a great post defender like Kurt Thomas or Cliff Robinson or Antonio Davis right about now...)

Dunleavy driving was a rare treat! When was the last time we saw Dunleavy take it inside like that or Murphy get down in the block? We just don't have those physical big players yet but maybe Taft, Biedrins, or Diogu will become very dominant once they mature. Really young guys like Maggette and Jermaine O'neil didn't do crap in the league until they aged and worked on their game. They've got strength, athleticism, a great mindset and that leads to a lot of good things if they're setting the tone offensively and defensively. Dunleavy and Murphy can always improve in some aspects, but their ceiling isn't very high. They'll never be Elton Brand or Corey Maggette. Getting to the foul line has more impact against the other team than just shooting. It screws up the other team's rhythm and it forces substitutions to be made as well as getting closer to riding the free throw bonus the rest of the way.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">You guys have to remember, the clippers have quite an underrated backcourt that can get the ball to other people (more unselfish than they seem) and some forwards that are very physical type players. When our backcourt can't match the sort of production the clipper forwards are producing at the line and getting inside the paint, well... it's a loss for us because we can't set the tone in all quarters. Our forwards played pretty decent today, but Brand and Maggette just outclass anything we have in terms of getting the ball inside and nailing the touch foul. Our forwards aren't that soft, but at the same time they're not physical or mobile enough to take it inside or draw contact on most games and shoot 50% or high 40's and at least 80% from the stripe. In some instances neither Foyle nor Murphy could contain Brand so they put Baron Davis to defend him twice on purpose! (man I wish we had a great post defender like Kurt Thomas or Cliff Robinson or Antonio Davis right about now...)

Dunleavy driving was a rare treat! When was the last time we saw Dunleavy take it inside like that or Murphy get down in the block? We just don't have those physical big players yet but maybe Taft, Biedrins, or Diogu will become very dominant once they mature. Really young guys like Maggette and Jermaine O'neil didn't do crap in the league until they aged and worked on their game. They've got strength, athleticism, a great mindset and that leads to a lot of good things if they're setting the tone offensively and defensively. Dunleavy and Murphy can always improve in some aspects, but their ceiling isn't very high. They'll never be Elton Brand or Corey Maggette. Getting to the foul line has more impact against the other team than just shooting. It screws up the other team's rhythm and it forces substitutions to be made as well as getting closer to riding the free throw bonus the rest of the way.</div>

I think the Warrior's should just attack the rim. We need should just let Brand get almost what he wants while containing everyone else. Should be able to win. It's like playing against the Suns. The Warriors shot 7-35 from 3 point range. Now convert those 28 attempts that they missed and put a 40 percent clip on it. That comes out to 13 2 point shots, we'll possible have atleast another 26 points. Game over. It's just too bad.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting openglfx:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the Warrior's should just attack the rim. We need should just let Brand get almost what he wants while containing everyone else. Should be able to win. It's like playing against the Suns. The Warriors shot 7-35 from 3 point range. Now convert those 28 attempts that they missed and put a 40 percent clip on it. That comes out to 13 2 point shots, we'll possible have atleast another 26 points. Game over. It's just too bad.</div>

To be able to create shots and attack the rim consistently, one needs to be quick, be smart, be good with the ball, and finish inside. Jrich isn't good with the ball. Dunleavy is too slow and can't finish. Pietrus just isn't smart sometimes and will try to dunk everything he can... Only Baron has all those qualities, but he's been struggling finishing layups of all things. All those traits, it's the difference between turning the ball over or getting the refs to be sold on the foul call. But yeah, I agree the W's should find some way to break out of the zone, either by moving off the ball, or working on their intermediate range games. There's space at the top of the key to do something. I'm sure Jim Barnett has commented on using that area as it is somewhat closer in.

 

Damn, they should just hire Jim Barnett as their offensive coordinator or something. Heh. It seems like he knows everything when he's commentating on the air.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting openglfx:</div><div class="quote_post">Damn, they should just hire Jim Barnett as their offensive coordinator or something. Heh. It seems like he knows everything when he's commentating on the air.</div>

Nah, then Dunleavy would be the first option in that offense.

 

All game the Clippers played an inside outside game. When the W's collapsed inside the threw it to a wide open player who would bury the three. But when Murphy does not go inside to post up and your only person down low is Adonal you're going to have problems.
Basically, I hate to say it but the W's were beat by a better team. The W's have some youth and upside but they are still a ways away. I watched MP shoot three's and I was screaming for him to drive. MP did and was soundly swated away by Brand. Clips are just a better team right now, but its a long season.