Was this game a gift to the Warriors?

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  1. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    Nobody gave a fuck about matching a 13 game record. Hell I did not even know about it until now, and I will forget about it in 5 minutes. You don't know shit about this draft, nor do I. But if losing and maybe moving up 2 spots gives us a slightly better chance at guessing on the right prospect, or increases our chances of including it in a trade, then I am guessing those fans last night who were kicking back, drinking a few beers and watching the last game of the season would be just fine with it. It just gives them more hope for next year.
     
  2. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    Every draft has difference makers you dunderhead.

    Wasn't the Aldridge/Roy draft supposed to be weak? They said the same thing about the Lillard draft.

    I suggest you fine tune your basketball knowledge.
     
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    Its kind of amateur as fan to root for your team to win the last game of the season just for the feel good story. Rather than get a better pick in the draft.
     
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    Shooter Unanimously Great

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    And you think we know who those "difference-makers" are, and that we can get one with the 10th pick but not the 11th? You're living in a fool's paradise if you do.

    Sure, every draft has a few good players, but the idea that we're going to get one at 10 but not 11 is ridiculous.


    I'll tell you one thing I know--and that you should learn. You don't throw games just to move up in the draft, and you don't take a 13-game losing streak with a "ho-hum" attitude. You play hard every night, and you play to win, and you let the chips fall where they may.
     
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    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    No excuses from Shooter. He's tired. He worked 12 hours today...

    On Mrs. HCP.

    FAMS.
     
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    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    I dunno. I always root for W's, personally.
     
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    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    Completely agree. Accepting losing breeds the acceptance of losing. I don't want our players to accept losing.
     
  8. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    Then you have no concept of big picture.
     
  9. MickZagger

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    If you think Lillard accepts losing you need to get your brain checked out.
     
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    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    I think if you accept losing, you need to get your brain and manhood checked out.

    Cool, though. Don't be dumb and twist my words. Don't recall saying anything about Dame in my point. Can you find that for me?
     
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  11. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    You seem to have trouble grasping there are different arguments on if it is good to tank just for a higher draft pick. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they don't see the big picture, they just disagree.

    Do you understand that concept?
     
  12. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    Lillard's a Blazer player is he not?

    Your accepting losing theory is hilarious. Nice play.

    :biglaugh:

    Its called big picture. Figure it out.
     
  13. MickZagger

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    Its why tanking exists. GM's worth their beans disagree with you.

    Not grasping that getting a higher draft pick (2 spots higher in this instance) is more important than winning the last game of the season is not realizing that future is more important than some feel good last game of the season just because blazergiant and his boo spent money on tickets that night.
     
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    So explain to me why two other organizations decided to win their last game of the season and give up a spot in the draft?

    Let me guess, you know more than those GMs that make millions per year because they "aren't" worth beans . . . but us internet poster making a fraction of what they make have all the answers.

    This isn't as cut and dry as you make it. Clearly there are two schools of thought. Philly and Toronto I'm guessing figure what BG says, play hard every game, try to win every game and let the chips fall where they may with a possible move of 1 or 2 draft spots. Blazers figure throw in the towel, let the young players play in spite of winning and get ready for next year.

    Don't know what the right answer is, but clearly it is not an issue of "grasping the idea of tanking", it is whether tanking is an effective idea for an organization.
     
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    The thing is the players who were in there, were busting their asses, they did play to win, and they never gave up. I am not sure if you watched the game or not, but I did. I watched the whole game because I enjoy watching the younger players finally get a chance to play when the game is on the line. And I assume that the fans who went to the game watched for the same reason as I since LMA was not even supposed to play in the game until a few hours before tip off.
     
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  17. MickZagger

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    You're the one stuck on "Dame" I'm just picking our best player to give an example. I'm sure he's bread as a loser because we lost that Warriors game.

    Do you have any anecdotal evidence supporting this losing breeds losing theory?
     
  18. BLAZINGGIANTS

    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    I pointed nobody out in particular - just was going off the general feel and comments of athletes. I've seen it mentioned by players so many times over the years. Most others get it - why don't you? Why do you feel 10 is so much better than 11? Did 4 prove to be better than 6 last year?

    I'm not "stuck". You put words in my mouth that were never said (or typed). But whatever supports your post, I supposed.
     
  19. MickZagger

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    Tanking has proven to be effective.

    Its sport. Of course franchises that have so much on the line aren't going to admit to it.

    As for Toronto and Philly winning, I don't know what their line of thinking was but sucks for them to not potentially have as good of a pick as us.

    If you don't think that Olshey and PA weren't sitting on the sideline hoping in the back of their minds that we lost, well....I'm sorry.
     
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    Until the draft lotto Gods say "F you, ho!"
     

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