Washington Wizards center Jason Collins reveals he is gay

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  1. Shooter

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    We "call out" groups all the time: Tax cheats, wife beaters, drug abusers, child molesters, adulterers, deadbeat dads, inside traders, and on and on. Society has always passed judgement on certain groups of people who engage in certain types of behaviors. Broussard's problem is that he is calling out a group that the politically correct crowd has deemed is "okay," and which the media has determined you can no longer have a contrary opinion about.
     
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    More like if your opinion jives with the company opinion. Example, if you spoke publicly in support of gay rights but worked for Westbrook baptist church, you would likely find your pink slip.
     
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    Are you sure? Ever noticed how many players gather on the court after a game to offer a prayer? Ever noticed how many thank God for recovery from an injury, or for a long successful career, or just a win?
     
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    Dude, you don't get it. Yes, there is a negative opinion about people who think they can use the government as a tool to oppress a group of people in this country. How could someone who's a Republican not see that it's against what the framers would have wanted to write legislation that would treat one citizen differently from another citizen? Even worse, the justification of many of the people who write and vote for this legislation is that it's in the Bible. How could you possibly think that it's in the best interest of his country, and in line with what the framers wanted, to discriminate against someone else? It's bullshit. Anti-gay people are scared of what they don't know, they are hateful, they are ignorant, and they are hiding behind their religion as a reason to mistreat others.

    So yes, if you think it's okay to discriminate against others and you come out publicly against gay people while representing your company, they might fire you. ESPN doesn't need all the negative press, boycotts, and bullshit that will come with having a bigot on their staff.
     
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    These days the company opinion is almost always the PC opinion
     
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    Collins is gay. Regardless of if he's never had sex with a man, he's gay. All if your examples are of people defined by their actions. Apples & oranges. Race, gender and to a lesser extent religion are more apt comparisons.
     
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    And yet they seem to be accepting of Collins. Why can't you, or broussard? Seems like you can be christian and accept and suppirt him as a gay man/player.
     
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    Guess he will be shooting rainbows instead of floaters
     
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    Yes, I'm positive that it's not the CNBA. But if you can show me where in the NBA or even Espn employee handbook where it says you have to be a Christian that would be great. So if someone from a religion that believes in multiple gods played in the NBA would Broussard have brought up religion? Multiple gods is un-Christian is it not?
     
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    Are you kidding? Some of the framers supported slavery and even owned slaves. Some of them also believed that women should not own property or have the right to vote. You either weren't born in this country or you have no awareness of our history.

    And who's talking about "discriminating"? Don't we all the freedom to stand up for what we believe? Broussard is simply standing up for what he thinks is right, and the values that he think promote a healthy society. I'd be willing to bet that he even supports civil unions for homosexuals. Your lumping of Broussard into a group of hateful, ignorant "anti-gay" people just shows your own prejudices, and your inability to think outside of your own little box.
     
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    So Collins isn't being defined by his actions??
     
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    Broussard went outside of what he is paid to do. I don't tune into espn to hear about religion. Just like if I tune into the cooking network and the host talks about how bad they think the president is. That's not their job and it reflects negatively on the food network as some people might like the president. And a major business wants to piss off as few people as possible.

    He made these comments ON Espn. On a show he was paid by espn to give his SPORTS opinion.
     
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    Nice trick. You put words in my mouth that I never said.

    You'll have to ask Broussard that. I can't speak for him. But he apparently believes that homosexuality is immoral, and a detriment to society, and his right to speak that opinion is just as sacred as the right of pro-gay activists to speak their opinion. That's the point that you're missing.
     
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    Maybe you should write a letter to ESPN and complain about all the players who thank God after a win.
     
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    He has a right to speak his mind; he does not have a right to use company resources to do it. That's not covered by any contract. If your boss caught you using the company photocopier to print up flyers for the KKK, you'd probably be fired if that didn't jibe with the company line.
     
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    You asked if I was sure it wasn't the CNBA. I'm sure it's not. As for players thanking God I have yet to see one following that up with opinions about un-Christians
     
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    I think someone is overcompensating in this thread.
     
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    Bingo. Take your opinions right or wrong to the street corner on a soapbox all day. Fine with me.
     
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    This is pretty mild for Shooter; I'm actually impressed with the civility.
     
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    No. Unless SI included graphic gay porn in their article. Did they write whether he's ever acted on his "orientation"? Is it a sin according to Broussard's religion to be heterosexual, if one doesn't act on it outside of marriage?
     

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