Washington Wizards center Jason Collins reveals he is gay

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    His opinion of how it'll be perceived. How some, would have a problem with it. Not how he personally feels an entire segment of their viewership is immoral or whatever his particular words were. They have every right to discipline them as they see fit. And before you come back with "saying you support gay rights could be offensive to another segment" (which you are essentially saying in your earlier post), in one instance you are specifically calling out a group. In the 2nd situation, you are just disagreeing with a particular belief of another group.
     
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    From ESPS's perspective, CB is expected to take the company line on certain issues. It's a much smaller issue, but Bill Simmons just got in trouble and was not allowed to us his twitter account because he insulted an ESPN show.

    CB has the right to say what he wants, which extends to the law. But, he does not have the "right" to not be punished for those same statements by ESPN. two different uses of the term right, de jure and de facto.
     
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    Obviously you didn't see that George Takai video.
     
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    If homosexuality were so bad wouldn't it have been one of the 10 Commandments?

    The 11th Commandment?
     
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    When a player signs on to be a representative for a major corporation like the NBA, he is being paid a heft sum of money to play basketball, not to give his opinion on homosexuality. So why is it okay for all these NBA players to be publicly voicing their approval of someone who is "coming out"?
     
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    Wonder what Vegas odds are for the next to come out are. Steve Francis and Cuttino Mobley in tandem has to be up there since they're no longer risking their careers. Baron Davis could be soon since he hates being out of the spotlight, but something tells me he'd only admit to being bi. Richard Jefferson has to be the favorite among active players- Bosh just has too much to lose.
     
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    It's been explained about a hundred times on this thread but apparently some people's doctrine causes reading impairment. Broussard wasn't simply expressing his personal religious views. He was working for ESPN, being paid to talk about sports, not religion, at the time he chose to give a speech about his religious beliefs. By default, as he was representing ESPN at the time, his statements are the statements of ESPN. His religious opinions are the opinions of ESPN. Like someone else posted, ESPN is not CESPN. If his employers decide that he misrepresented the views of ESPN on the matter --and maybe he didn't -- or that he harmed their brand, they have every right to fire him. Those who insist this is bullying or unfair are just not thinking clearly, IMO.
     
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    I live my life entirely based on top 10 lists. If it ain't in the top 10, it just doesn't matter.
     
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    The media is enthusiastically supporting people who engage in homosexuality. Broussard, on the other hand, is simply taking up the other side of the issue. But Broussard is getting all the heat.
     
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    Because the company is ok with it.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    LaMarcus might lose his fierce, ambitious, total devotion to conquering the other team...oh, yeah, forgot.
     
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    Are you suggesting he's not a 'top'? How dare you sir!
     
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    Maybe he should watch Jason and the Argonauts.
     
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    His opinion on homosexuality? Do you think that is what happened today? This man is 34 years old. It took him 33 years to tell his TWIN BROTHER that he was gay. He isn't proclaiming anything. He is just allowing the world to see him as he sees himself. All of the support isn't some, "score one for the gay team". Its supporting the player for having the courage to live his life without having to lie to everyone, including his closest friends and family. Having that much strength isn't easy.
     
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    Lots of things aren't mentioned in the 10 Commandments. There's no mention of bribery, or alcoholism, or rape, or child abuse, or incest, etc., etc. Does that mean all of those things are acceptable?
     
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    Acceptance vs Exclusion/Intolerance. It isn't that hard to see the difference.
     
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    Really? Better tell that to Sports Illustrated. They ran a cover story on Collins on the impression that he was "proclaiming" something rather significant.
     
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    That is one dumb twin. No wonder he only lasted 10 years, never saw his man, no court awareness. The NBA is a place for brains. When I was 1 I was looking for a wife.
     
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    Well, there's the rub. The media believes that accepting and even celebrating homosexuality is the proper thing to do, while Broussard believes it is not. Yet Broussard will probably lose his job for stating his beliefs.
     
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    Exactly. If your opinion jives with the PC opinion, you're good. If it doesn't, you're a goner.
     

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