We are CLEARLY the deepest team in the league.

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  1. STOMP

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    someday people are going to catch on to the fact that everything isn't black and white in this world. To counter a point that this game exemplifies how the Blazers are the deepest team in the league I threw out that the Nuggets were also missing a key ingredient... an established stud who initiates their offense. How someone concludes the quoted bit above is what I was inferring is beyond me

    for those that aren't so good in dealing with shades of gray, let me be clear that I feel the Blazers do have quality depth and that last night's game was a solid win that they earned. Blake shooting the lights out in the 4th was great to see again

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  2. 44Thrilla

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    CLEARLY is my favorite part of the thread title.
     
  3. DaRizzle

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    pssssh...shades of gray...please :crazy:
    It is either A or B, take a fucking stand! :devilwink:
     
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    I'm biased, but seeing as you still have Roy, I think the Cavs would be a decent shout. They made the Finals essentially with LeBron and players who would be reserves on other good teams. So seeing as you still have Roy, let's say for example the Cavs keep LeBron. Say the players lost are Mo, Shaq, Varejao, Delonte West and Anthony Parker.

    Starting 5 would be Ilgauskas, Hickson, LeBron, Moon, Gibson. Granted they'd only have inexperienced reserves, but I would say that that squad is not a huge way off the Ilgauskas (has regressed), Gooden, LeBron (now has an outside shot), Larry Hughes, Sasha Pavlovic starting five that got them to the Finals.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm no way saying that's an elite team, but I think that that squad could in theory beat a team like the Spurs say one time in ten in the regular season. I will also admit that this is for one reason and one reason only: LeBron. If LeBron goes down, the Cavs are down to a .500 team at best.
     
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    uughh fuck yeah we are sooooo DEEP baybee you like that shit ugh oh fuck
     
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    good analogy, didnt the cavs go undefeated when lebron was out a couple years ago?
     
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    yeah but I put that down to statistical anomalies and iirc those games were against much weaker opponents than normal. And I'm not saying that lineup would light up the floor, but it is made up of 3 players who played a big part in the Cavs' Finals run, a promising rookie held in really high regard by the Cavs front office, and a long wing player who is very athletic. It's a solid team that would probably hover at about 45 or so wins a season, so by statistics they would probably beat good teams from time to time.
     
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    KS does not approve.

    I think a mod has to change "clearly" to "maybe" in light of the chingy's post
     
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    the cavs are very deep, they are solid from 2-10. and they are all healthy, which helps haha
     
  10. PtldPlatypus

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    Well, I'd say to be comparable, you'd have to lose Z instead of Mo (lose both your centers, but keep your top two scorers). So then, you'd be starting Hickson (at center), Lebron, Moon, Gibson, and Williams (tiny backcourt), with Jackson and Williams as your only front-court reserves, and Danny Green and Coby Karl as your guards off the bench.

    Sorry, I think what we have now is significantly better than that.
     
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    S2: where clearly =
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    The way I see it, you have your top two centers out, plus three of your top five wing men.
    The equivalent for the Cavs would be missing Ilgauskas, Shaq, Parker, West and Moon.

    So the Cavs would still have Varejao (unless you think he's better than either Shaq or Z in which case swap the two), Hickson, LeBron, Gibson, Mo. That's not a great team, but it might just be able to hold it's own for a while. I think they could give the current Blazers team (i.e. the team that played the Nuggets) a good game, but their demise but be just how undersized the backcourt would be. Combine that with the fact that LeBron would probably have to guard Roy for long stretches of the game, and I'm not quite sure how they would cope with the size of some of the other players.

    I'm not really trying to say that they're better than the Blazers are with their current injuries, but I think CLEARLY (particularly in caps) is a bit of an exaggeration.
     
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    We will be by the end of the season with all the injuries. Our 3rd string or scrubs will have more experience next year, just like Denver who has an experienced bench and thats why they have been going into the playoffs the last few years.
     
  14. KingSpeed

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    So only 1 of our top 10 scorers from last season is playing tonight. I wonder if the Lakers could beat the Warriors tonight without Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom, Derek Fisher, Jordan Farmar, Sasha Vujacic, Luke Walton, and Josh Powell.

    The Lakers' starting lineup:

    PG Shannon Brown
    SG Kobe Bryant
    SF Adam Morrison
    PF Ron Artest
    C DJ Mbenga

    Bench: 3 callups from the D-League?
     
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    The Celtics are playing without Rondo, Pierce ad KG right now. I wonder if they can win...
     
  16. KingSpeed

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    Here's what Cleveland would be stuck with:

    PG: LeBron
    SG: Parker
    SF: Moon
    PF: Darnell Jackson
    C: Shaq

    Bench: Coby Karl, Jawad Williams, Danny Green

    That's not as bad as the Lakers.
     
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    Take Perkins, Rasheed, & Eddie House away as well and then they're going through what we've been going through.
     
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    That's their 3 best players. You guys still have Roy, right?
     
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  19. KingSpeed

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    We don't have LMA. And we have neither of our top 2 centers. So the Cs must be without Sheed and Perkins. We're also without our 3 point shooting PG off the bench so the Cs need to be without House.
     
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    Yeah, I just saw that LMA got hurt in the Clips game. Still, the Celtics are down 3 all-star players. The Blazers still have their franchise player and are piecing the rest together.
     

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