We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

We dont necessarily need to trade 3 for one all star, we could address a number of things we actually need, point of attack Defender, rebounder, and bench strength.
Rather than Ingram, get Trey Murphy (shooter), Herb Jones (tenacious) defender, their 14th pick & future picks. Wouldn't need to give up Simons right away if at all. Could still make some tweaks.

 

I would even say the first one is bullshit as well. Would you do that if you were the Nets? I would not.
Bridges and Claxton are two pretty good pieces to build on for them as well.

 

We saw what it built them, a play-in or 8th seed and out team. Bridges is already 27. If I was the Nets, I would absolutely trade Bridges (role player) and Claxton (role player) for a guy who projects to be a superstar at 19 years old on a rookie deal. That team isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

 

Nice player, but I don't want to give up the #3 AND the pieces necessary to meet cap requirements.

 

I seriously question people that want to see more Dame and Ant. I also question people that would want to bury Ant's talent and 24+M on the bench because we should keep him even though he is obviously a bad fit playing with Dame.

 

yeah, I think the 3 has good value but suddenly it and Ant are worth both Bridges and Claxton? doesn't seem credible

 

We are in between. Ant + #3 is too much. Ant + #23 isn't enough.
What about Ant + #3 for Siakam + #13?

 

Yeah, I was thinking that Siakam is basically only worth pick 3 if it's Scoot. So we would need to get a third team involved that could give us value back for Ant and send expiring contracts to Toronto... maybe Orlando.

 

that gets it pretty close, IMO, but a couple things that impact the equation: Siakam will have an expiring contract and could walk in a year; Portland would have to add more to make the deal work...like Little and Keon

 

I looked at that and the Draft takes a drop off for me at 10/11. After that, there isn't a ton of difference for me between 12 to around mid 20s. I'm also looking at the future cost as PS has one year left and will want a SuperMax contract after that. We would be paying Dame/Siakam near $90,000,000/year for a team that I still don't believe is a legit contender.

 

On Fanspo with next season's salaries, it seems to work. But not on ESPN with this year's salaries. Adding a bit more on our side shouldn't be a deal breaker I would say. Or just wait until the 1st of July?

 

Here's where I disagree with Lloyd / pretty much everyone who loves Scoot. His projected high-end might top out higher, but his projected number of championships is likely going to be lower because point guards who play like him have never won a championship. Most of them don't even get close.

It's not like he's going to be a Kawhi-level defender (frankly he doesn't have the size to do that anyway even if he was some Marcus Smart-level-defender) and unstoppable offensively. People act like Scoot is the next MJ and forget MJ was one of the best defenders of all time.

Trae Young and Donovan Mitchell are better players with more upside than Pascal Siakam, but if I were trying to win a championship and was forced to pick between those 3 players, I'd pick Pascal every day that ends in 'Y'.

 

Fanspo is a little wonky these days. It'd have to be Simons and Little to match the salary.

 

Even as of next season? I get it now because of the hard cap situation we are in (thanks GPII) but it won't matter on the 1st of July is the deal is allowed on the 125% rule. That would be my calculation but of course I am not a CBA expert.

 

If I were the Nets I'd probably do it if:

1) They were really high on whoever was available at 3.
2) Realized they are headed for a big ol' treadmill of borderline play-in level teams if they keep Bridges.

And honestly, as a PDX fan, I'm not dying for Claxton and Bridges, there are a ton of reservations with that combo as well.

Both teams walk away feeling good but not great which means it's probably the move to make.

#3 and Ant for Bridges, PDX fans feel like they got shafted which means... no deal

 

125% of Simons' deal doesn't get to Pascal's deal.

 

3 + Ant+ Nas for 13 + Siakam works.

 

Would just need to add Nas.

 

The combined salaries of Ant and Nas are enough to match Saikam's salary if we're looking at the 23-24 numbers... meaning that 125% of Ant's and Nas' combined salaries (30.4M x 1.25=37.88M) are within 100k of Siakam's 37.89M.

 

Seems perfect to me.