We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Strenuus, May 16, 2023.

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What are you hoping for with this pick?

  1. Draft Scoot and keep him

    27.6%
  2. Draft Miller and keep him

    28.6%
  3. Draft someone else at 3 and keep him (please specify)

    3.1%
  4. Trade down, but still draft in the lottery

    10.2%
  5. Trade the pick for a starting forward

    30.6%
  1. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Offensively I really like the pairing. The problem is all on the defensive end, which needs to be a major concern of roster construction if we are trying to contend with Dame's defense.
     
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    Driew Well-Known Member

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    I thought we couldn't shop future firsts with ours still being tied up with that Chicago deal?
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Well thats your opinion, I just don't see any reason to believe these are facts as opposed to fan speculation.

    I also see it as possible Joe won't accept less in a trade than the #3 pick is worth. At least I desperately hope so. Masai is a very tough negotiator.

    Now I do think the Blazers will explore to trade the pick for vet help, but what if none of the offers make sense? It would be stupid to just throw away the pick because Dame wants to win now, and the team doesn't give Dame the tools to win now.

    Who knows, maybe Cronin really prefers to keep the pick, but he is going through a legit process of trying to give Dame a winner with it instead, but ultimately will lay out the reason to Dame why it doesn't make sense to trade it, and Dame will agree to wait and see how half the season goes.
     
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    RonBrewer Well-Known Member

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    Sure, give them a future second and the number 3 pick. Otherwise, let Charlotte make their pick. Sounds like they don't want the pick or to have to decide
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Certainly, trade Dame for Siakam and Sharpe with salary filler and #3 for Bridges.

    Can they do it while keeping enough talent to contend now? Thats the much harder realistic idea to draft. I don't believe so but would love to be wrong.
     
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    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    That’s from what your source is telling you?
     
  7. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Yeah people forgot we had a 90% chance of not getting Wemby and get mad we didn't get him.

    If I had a 90% chance of losing something I would not be pissed that I didn't win.
     
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    The top3 prospects this year would be in line to be drafted #1 overall in many other years. So yes, its a great asset. Might be beetter to think of it as there is an alltime prospect in Wemba, with two #1 prospects in Scoot/Miller.

    Blazers should hold on to it like a pot of gold unless they are very damn certain giving it up will lead to contending now.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Take Scoot and run.

    He’s a Derrick Rose level prospect.

    If Wemby weren’t in this draft he’d be the #1 pick.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    No they don't, Mitchell and Hartenstein are MLE guys not something you consider for #3 pick. Claxton would be one of the dream defensive center acquisitions, but even him I wouldn't consider the #3 pick. Claxton Randle Grant Ant/Sharpe Dame is not at the defensive level to contend, and is not a move away from it either.
     
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    stupid fucking tweet. LOL...the Nets don't have to assets to get Dame, even if they include some of those picks. Only a moron would suggest the Blazers would trade Dame for what Brooklyn has after eliminating those picks

    gawdamn idiot season
     
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    Dame is 33 next month, Scoot is 19. Yeah they can play together fine. Scoot can probably come off the bench for two years and then Dame will be playing CP3/Lowry/John Stockton minutes.

    If they were both 24 like Dame and CJ you might have a point. When there is 14 years difference, they don't really duplicate much, and Dame can space great off the ball.

    But yeah defense all over the frontcourt positions would be critical if that team is trying to win (which isn't a given if they draft Scoot)
     
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    Dame said he wanted roster moves for the team to contend at the Olympics three years ago and we've done nothing to win since - actively tanking twice. I don't think Dame's desires are set in stone or ultimatums as you are implying.

    Plus even if they are; well fine then deal with that problem when its here. Dame wanting out isn't something the team should start doing suboptimal moves for just to avoid.
     
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    False.

    Tiny move has to be done with Chicago to change protections, its not a big hindrance at all. Yes its an inconvenience, but its not holding up a trade for a star.

    Even if that can't happen, Blazers can just make the picks conditional as when the Lakers acquired Steve Nash and Dwight Howard.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    lol Screen Shot 2023-05-17 at 1.55.26 PM.png
     
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    A bit apples to oranges, yes? Curry, LeBron and Durant....that is nearly a dozen NBA Titles between them? As good as he is, that is a different level than Dame.
     
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    it only makes more sense if you don't care about rebounding. Both Grant and Bridges are shitty rebounders. Siakam is much better on the glass

    personally I think Siakam/Grant would be a good forward combo, maybe better than Grant/Bridges. And the acquisition cost of Siakam should be quite a bit lower. If it isn't than no thanks
     
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    Yeah Dame should be compared to someone like Reggie Miller. It was great those Pacers surrounded him with talent at both the middle and end of his career. But they didn't mortgage a bunch of unprotected picks for it. They actually went the other direction and traded a starting big in the finals for a green young player, which ultimately paid off very well.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Sharpe is a better rebounder than Simons in this scenario. Also Nurk missed a bunch of games last season. The rebounding was fine with Nurk + Hart.

    Get some better rebounders on the bench. Winslow barely played. Eubanks, Watford, Little, Thybulle, Reddish et. al are all poor rebounders for their position. Filling out the rest of your roster is less important than making sure your core pieces are right.
     
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    Siakam/OG doesn’t turn this team into a contender.

    It’s going to take years to recover from Olshey.

    Adding a potential superstar in Scoot is the only move to make.
     

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