We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Strenuus, May 16, 2023.

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What are you hoping for with this pick?

  1. Draft Scoot and keep him

    27.6%
  2. Draft Miller and keep him

    28.6%
  3. Draft someone else at 3 and keep him (please specify)

    3.1%
  4. Trade down, but still draft in the lottery

    10.2%
  5. Trade the pick for a starting forward

    30.6%
  1. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Toronto twitter is hilarious.

    OG is a high level role player - yet they are in agreement that he’s worth #3/Sharpe.

    Joe talks a big game and I have some trust that he’s not dumb enough to trade Scoot for OG or 30 year old, pending FA Siakam.
     
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    Driew Well-Known Member

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    Well Scoot would probably come off the bench for his rookie season if we didn't trade Ant this summer. And Ant would probably be traded in the next offseason if Scoot takes off.
     
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    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    Yes.

    Brooklyn:
    Bridges + #21 + #22 <-> #3 + #11
    Nets get 2 high picks & gets out of the tax (sufficient to resign Johnson)


    Orlando:
    #11 <=> Simons

    Portland:
    #3 + Simons <=> Bridges + #21 + #22



    Use #21 to pay off Chicago debt.

    Use Grant after resigning to bring in Siakam in December
     
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    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. Would need to include additional assets (picks)
     
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    If Jerami Grant can do it, not sure why Miller wouldn’t be able to

    But if we did trade dame,

    I’d seriously consider Amen

    Amen / Sharpe / Brown
     
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    AldoTrapani Well-Known Member

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    He can’t shoot for shit tho
     
  7. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    I don't get the vets for Dame trade ideas. Makes no sense. If we get Brown/Bridges/KAT, etc it should be to win with Dame now.

    If we trade Dame it should be to get young future potential All-stars and picks, not current stars in their prime that will start declining as our youth eventually peaks.

    And that ignores the friendships these guys have with Dame. They won't want to stay in Portland if Dame is gone.
     
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    Keep the pick and blow up the rest. Lillard, Nurk, Ant gone. If you trade the pick, you probably also trade Sharpe (vets wanted for Lillard). Then when those moves don't work, and they won because we are a mess financially, then we have no championship, no Lillard (old in 2 to 3 years), and no foundation to build with. I just for the life of me can't see a way we win with Lillard. But I have been a fan long enough to know, they will do the wrong thing and try to milk the rest of Lillard's years.
     
  9. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    the problem is... the teams with expendable draft capital probably don't want Dame.

    BK -- maybe, but they are more than one Dame away from contending.
    NY -- already have Brunson.
    MIA -- don't have the picks
    OKC/NO -- have the picks, but no real desire to expedite their window.

    DAL -- ? maybe? 10+ a bunch of future picks?
     
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    Look over there, now over there... and now you're comparing apples to cucumbers. We all can see the individual skills & off the charts athleticism in Shaedon. Those obvious traits are why he was able to skip college entirely to be drafted on potential higher then either of the guys we were comparing, but just as obviously he's still got a ways to go before he knows how to play. Without question of the now 3 guys we are talking about he's by far the best prospect coming out of HS... so?

    that is some quality stupid. What we were discussing was development of players. Obviously not all prospects are created equal and those with better physical and individual skills have higher ceilings. Drew Eubanks was never going to be Tim Duncan no matter if or where he went to college, or how much coaching or how many minutes he played at whatever level. Good grief man, are you really this challenged? Ant is an elite level run/jump athlete, CJ is not. Because of that he has a much higher ceiling which is why Portland drafted him in hopes he would develop.

    You're flailing badly in this thread so of course you go there. I'm sticking with facts and a HoF coach's comments about the difficulties of young player development in the NBA. You might benefit by checking out the link below.

    Prior to last season when Ant was 23, he'd played 4,375 minutes in the league. In college CJ played 3,657 minutes (his Sr year was cut short due to injury). Combined with the 476 minutes he played his rookie year, he'd played 4,133 minutes prior to his 23 year old season in question or 94% of the minutes Ant had played so the minutes part of your development/preparation claim is moot. Of course while at Lehigh, CJ was the focus of his team's attack, everything ran through him. He wasn't standing in the corner hoping the ball might swing his way like Ant was for much of his minutes on Dame's team, he was dealing with double teams and being the tip of the spear in their attack. Very different minutes. To one of Kerr's points, CJ also received a ton more of coaching as they practice a whole lot more in college then they do in the pros. While CJ's late teens and early 20s were spent being coached up getting reps in practice, Ant was clapping on the sidelines and checking into another hotel. No question who was better prepared for their 23rd year

    https://omny.fm/shows/steve-kerr/5-16-steve-kerr-joins-tolbert-copes-to-review-the

    STOMP
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    That's why there's 3 and 4 team deals.

    Although we've seen #1 Knicks fan Stephen A Smith wants Dame. My Knicks friend said they'd consider it for 4 unprotected firsts and 3 swaps. As we saw with Gobert Mitchell etc, it only takes one team.
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'm warming to the pipe dream of the Blazers trading #3 and Simons (and maybe filler) for Bridges.

    And yes I realize that's a massive pipe dream.

    Since they didn't get #1, I'll totally hallucinate this off season:

    Dame
    Bridges
    Green
    Grant
    Nurk

    if no Green, then Dame, Sharpe, Bridges, Grant and Nurk.

    *I am not saying there's a snowballs chance this happens btw*
     
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    Well Jaylen Brown is only 26.
     
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    Green hope is he tries to play contract hardball with the Warriors then decides to "stick it to them" by signing MLE with his friend Dame in Portland. Green is type of crazy guy to end up doing that for a year IMO.

    Dame
    Bridges Sharpe
    Grant
    Green DFS
    Claxton

    One of few types of scenarios I'd be happy trading away #3. I don't think the Nets do it though. And yeah, Daymond for the MLE is even much more unlikely longshot than the Nets piece.
     
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    im not reading any of this, my last post towards you made it very clear how moronic your posts are
     
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    Charlotte may trade their pick and try to build a "win now" team with LaMelo Ball.
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    The superstar-for-draft capital pretty much never works.

    and good luck finding a young up and coming team that’s gonna trade their young star for Dame so they can win now
     
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    Sure, but his birthday is before next season, and Scoot/Miller are 19.

    Brown is in his prime now. He's not going to be happy here without Dame and being years away from contending.

    Now it's a positive if we do a trade for him to play with Dame that maybe he could have more overlap with Sharpe/etc in the future. So yeah it's nice he is only 26. But that doesn't fit a rebuilding timeline. His cost is too high as well to not utilize those prime seasons right away.

    He's too old and too good to be acquired now while sending out Dame.
     
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    i'd want more than Bridges if we are giving up 3 AND ant.
     
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