We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Strenuus, May 16, 2023.

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What are you hoping for with this pick?

  1. Draft Scoot and keep him

    27.6%
  2. Draft Miller and keep him

    28.6%
  3. Draft someone else at 3 and keep him (please specify)

    3.1%
  4. Trade down, but still draft in the lottery

    10.2%
  5. Trade the pick for a starting forward

    30.6%
  1. BankTeller

    BankTeller Well-Known Member

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    For those of you who want Scoot and would be okay trading Dame, where is Amen on your big board?

    To me, Dame is still worth having on this team. He still gives you the best chance to succeed overall as a franchise. Young guys need a vet, and I see it being really important that whoever our crop of rookies are to have Dame as a mentor.

    To me, Amen gives you almost everything Scoot does. Scoot will be better right away, but is the same size as Dame. Amen may also be a PG one day, but he has the size to actually play SF. I though the twins were going to be around 6’4.25 like Sharpe no shoes, but they’re a full 1.5” taller.

    I think I’d rather have Amen with Dame still on the team than with Scoot and no Dame at all.
     
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    BankTeller Well-Known Member

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    Do you really think Amen has zero chance of being pick by HOU? I guess it’s more wishful thinking than anything. I see Amen’s lack of shooting as a nonissue right now, but I’m hoping it turns a few teams off.
     
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    BankTeller Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think Carter is good enough to trade out of #3 for. Wagner, yes.
     
  4. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    There's no "possibly" about that
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Good points. Co-sign.
     
  6. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    wut?

    during this annual 6 weeks of gaslighting, deflection, tactical leaks, lies, and damn lies, you believe the one rumor that dovetails with your opinion?

    I'm just about certain that in January we heard that the Nets had no interest in trading Durant
     
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    AmirIcon Well-Known Member

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    Sharpe was also getting bad reviews.

    I suppose it could be true or... misinformation.
     
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    andalusian Season - Restarted

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    The question the nets should be asking themselves is - is bridges a #1 on a championship team and if not, can they get one with the #3 pick for him. If, like me, they believe he wouldn't be a #1 on a championship team, and they believe scoot might be, they should consider a trade
     
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    AmirIcon Well-Known Member

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    Not to mention he's pushing 27. He'll be past 30 by the time they get ready to actually compete and his price won't be a bargain on the next contract.

    If I was them, I'd restart with Scoot or someone else at 3.
     
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    Labinot41 Well-Known Member

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    It's interesting, all fanbases want Scoot or Miller, Scoot a bit more, i don't think many Blazers fans already realized what we have here with the 3rd Pick. Yes it sucks we couldn't get Wemby, but Scoot or Miller would probably be the first Pick in many other drafts. Fans who want to trade the Pick for a veteran, who might not even make us a Contender, need to understand that. And i hope Dame understands it too and he's happy if we Pick either Scoot or Miller
     
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    I think a problem we might run into is that 3 could very well be Scoot and it is Scoot and we're trying to combine 3 with Ant to land an all star... the Scoot and Ant pairing won't make sense to anyone in the league since Olshey is out of the league. I just hope that Scoot separates himself from Miller in the eyes of Charlotte and they start to see LaMelo as a facilitator triple double guy and Scoot as the 30ppg guy. A Miller/Ant combo outgoing would make a lot more sense to a lot more teams.
     
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    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    Dame's career has been crippled by starting next to undersized guards. Scoot will not make him happy. I don't think there is any way Miller will make him happy. Fuck neither guy should make us happy about getting better next season, both guys are about being better in two or three seasons.

    The play is to turn 3 into an all star that fills needs on this roster or to trade Dame and Nurk, let Jerami walk or do a S&T with him, if it's Scoot trade Ant and do a full on youth rebuild.
     
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    Simply no. Scoot has the higher value. Ant can be rerouted to another team.

    I'm not sure Miller should be in the top 3 of this draft.
     
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    I went through some tapes of both twins this morning. Very impressive, I hope they do the combine. If they measure out to SF sized (6'6 or taller barefoot, 7' wingspan) I'm truly intrigued. Amen is more of a playmaker, Ausar is supposed to be longer and a better defender. Both are top shelf run jump (40"+ vertical) athletes.

    STOMP
     
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    . They measured 6’ 5.75” without shoes, 8’ 7.5/8.0” standing reach, 7 foot wingspan.

    https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2023

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    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    The combine has come and gone.

    https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2023

    https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-strength-agility?SeasonYear=2023

    https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-spot-up?SeasonYear=2023

    https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-non-stationary?SeasonYear=2023

    If you just google nba draft combine 2023 there are a ton of articles about standout performances from the scrimmages and who impressed the most overall.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Don't think that's a big issue, teams could just flip Ant to a 3rd team. The #3 pick has way more value than Ant, and possibly more value if it's Scoot than Miller, so I wouldn't look at it as you posted.

    Bigger issue is with Scoot or Miller are the Blazers getting trade offers for an elite forward? If not then Blazers really need to take BPA, not some 30 year old expiring contract Siakam.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    If the Blazers use #3 sure they can explore all of that, but there's really no urgency. Guys like Nurk or Ant might have good offers now or much better offers during the season, or even next year. Grant contract is only immediate decision that has to be made. Dame staying or traded would be the elephant decision, and might actually kind of hold up the others, as until they are 100% sure Dame is staying or going they probably don't want to commit to other decisions.

    Let's say Blazers take Scoot, but there are rumors Embiid might be available if Harden goes to Houston, but that won't be resolved until July 5th.

    So maybe even a chance that this isn't all resolved at the draft, it could go on into free agency or mid July.
     
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    If it were Siakam or better yet Brown I would hope that we would be able to get them extended before the trade was finalized. I don't know if that would make Brown's cap number bigger and harder to match if he extended for a super max.

    I do think that #3 for even an already extended Siakam would be an overpay and then you'd have to send them Ant and Nas or Nurk... I know Nurk probably has neutral value because of his contract but I think Ant and Nas have some value despite Ant's contract and Nas's injury issues.

    I do think that #3, Ant and Nas for an extended Siakam and #13 would be a fair trade for both teams but Masai doesn't seem to be too interested in fair trades.
     

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