We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

Every Dame apologist acts as if a rookie can not improve from college, G League or whatever to the NBA. Dame was more NBA ready because he played 4 years of college. Pretty sure Scoot or Miller will be light years better after 3 NBA seasons than they are now. I look forward to seeing one of them tear it up for Portland.

 

I think Marks is wrong if he actually said that:



http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q53



http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q58



http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q95

sure looks like any Brown extension this year, if he's traded to Portland, could only be for 2 extra years. If Portland trades for him, they couldn't give him an extension till essentially 2024. In fact, if you read the footnote on section 95 above, if the trade happened at the draft, his extension can only be for 1 year because this season and next would count as the first two seasons of the 3 season maximum

so all the chatter about needing the assurance of a S&T seems pointless. I would not be in Brown's best interest, at all, to sign any extend and trade deal

 

That's fairly disingenuous to compare those two. MCW was 22 when he entered the league and was terrible as a shooter AND finisher. He's also not nearly as big, fast, or strong and was never in the same stratosphere as Amen defensively.

I get why you made the comparison. MCW was a terrible shooter as well, and never developed into a good one. But that's really where the comparisons end. It's fair to think Amen will have a 3pt% around 25% like MCW, even though I see that as unlikely. It's highly unfair to think Amen will barely be a 40%fg guy for his entire career. That's why I don't buy into this comparison.

 

Sorry, I'm just having a tough time understanding what this OTE thing is. Maybe Amen turns out into a useful player-- i just dont have a sufficient understanding of his competiton to gauge the value of a 20 yr old going up against guys 2-4 yrs younger than him.

 

Typically those trades are agreed to before the draft, but executed after.

The Love/Wiggins trade was done on August 23 - exactly 30 days after he signed his rookie contract with the Cavs. The delay was so that Wiggins' contract could be aggregated for salary matching purposes.

IF Brooklyn would agree to trade Bridges for #3 -> then Portland could do something similar where Little + #3 signed player were traded for Bridges.

 

Is this in reference to some recent news?
Or just 'because'?

 

that is an absolute crock of shit.

I haven't seen anybody say rookies can't improve. Nobody. It's just about the loopiest straw man I've seen around here

and what exactly are Dame fans "apologizing" for? That every July he's a year older than the previous July?...like everybody who has ever been born?

that he isn't Giannis or Lebron or Jokic? why would we apologize for that considering he's the best Blazer ever?

there were several posters here who sure seem convinced a year ago that Dame was already on his downhill slide. I even saw a few say that he was never going to be as good as he was in 2018-20. Then he comes out and has his best season ever. So, Dame-Apologists say "pound sand" to Dame-Haters. Labels are fun, right?

what us Dame 'fans' are generally thinking is that there are no guarantees with whatever Portland does. And what this particular Dame fan (me) is seeing is that some of the trade-Dame advocates happen to be some of the biggest peddlers of the Scoot-hype. Coincidence?

 

Paul shot 46 and 47 percent in college. It's not like his good shooting came out of nowhere.

 

College 3 isn't NBA 3.

He shot 28% from three during his rookie season. I'm guessing it took him that long to adapt his shooting.

 

Maybe he can get as good as Scoots 43% fg & 26.5% threes? Took Scoot two years in the G league top accomplish it however....

 

Marks only said the 295 vs 250 amounts. Yes what you found is what I remember, that guys such as Siakam and Brown basically can't sign an extension that is in their interest if traded, similar to Grant. We'd have to wait until they are in free agency the following summer to resign them.

 

yeah, that's very likely.

Blazers will almost certainly have to wait till any player is UFA before inking a new deal. I know it's a risk, but there are no risk free moves. And any player worth the trouble is not going to want to sign with a lottery team; and any playoff team is not going to have 40-50M in cap-space. The simple leverage of the market would help the Blazers, and give them cover, in a situation like that

 

Of course the 3 point line is different. Doesn't change the point that he had already proven himself to be a great shooter. He had 1 down year shooting as a rookie, adjusting to the new line, and then became a good shooter again.

But sure, let's take a top 5 PG ever as the basis for a comparison. Because hey, if he can do it, why not Scoot?!

 

Did scoot play two year? All I’m seeing is that he played one year

 

If we have Ainge as our GM, he will keep the pick then probably trade Dame for 7 first round picks

 

Doesn’t it matter who is available for the 3rd pick? It’s the 3rd pick in 2023 not the future.

 

If my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle. Cool thought though

 

For some reason I don't feel like digging too far in to to find out, the Ignite team he's on was only allowed to play in the Winter Showcase his "rookie" year, so his stats don't show up as having played a normal G-League season.

 

Much appreciated bro. I knew he played two season but couldn’t figured out why they only have his last season